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They carry no arms in the ship's arms chest? What about lead? Guillame chimes in that we should take their powder and a little corn meal, salt meat and cheese and let them go. It is the price of Tobacco at Nassau that counts. If we get the reputation of letting ships go unharmed the next cargo vessel might be even easier.

By the way, the Spanish do not allow trade with the British colonies. This Tobacco and Corn Meal would have to be smuggled ashore and they could not call in Saint Augustine itself. For a bribe, they might be allowed to visit and buy provisions.

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If we get the reputation of letting ships go unharmed the next cargo vessel might be even easier.
That is the psychological agenda behind letting this ship go unharmed:
We may safely assume the word will spread about us as pirates in this cutter sailing these seas.
So the next ships that we encounter may also consider it more advantegeous to give up without a fight rather than defending itself to the death
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There are no arms of note onboard the ship. In the truest since of the term, this is a ship that has spent years plying the East Coast of the colonies, and as such is used to being close to friendly ports or Her Majesties Vessels. Powder, there's enough aboard for someone to shoot a bird or two.

Unless you say otherwise, I will always presume that your men will replenish your own 'general stores' from what's available.....so there's no need to specifically say that you're going to seize food and water.
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Piracy is piracy. Letting them go only alerts the authorities. Take the ship and use it as a ruse. It might also make a useful runner to go into smaller ports, fetch supplies and run them out to our vessel.

Once we let them spread the word our vessel is engaged in piracy, nary a vessel will not turn and run on the first sighting. Do you really think they won't embellish their tail with us as the scapegoats of it?
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Unless you say otherwise, I will always presume that your men will replenish your own 'general stores' from what's available.....so there's no need to specifically say that you're going to seize food and water.
Glad you state this. I woke up in the middle of the night thinking that we should specifically mention this lest we need to return to Nassau for food & water
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There are lots of rivers and creeks we can put into and send ashore watering parties. You can even catch rain water. Food is a bit harder, but it depends on whether or not you can enter a port. There are many cases in Patrick O'Brian novels where the ship takes the food and wine off prizes, and they were Royal Navy! Cheese might be harder to find, depending on the nationality of the ship. Taking food is a lot more cost effective than buying it.

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3 for letting the Brig (almost certainly a smuggler in his own right (good catch there)) go.

1 for seizing the brig either as a prize or to do nefarious things to....

I'll leave it up in the air another day or two, as we have players that have not chimed in yet.
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the Brig (almost certainly a smuggler in his own right )
We may consider making him an offer to act as a smuggler for us
once we have seized good we want to sell.
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We may consider making him an offer to act as a smuggler for us
once we have seized good we want to sell.
I'm for letting him go but I have concerns about him alerting the port. That would undo all of our work to intercept him out of sight of Saint A.

From my merchant background do I recognize their Captain by sight or reputation. I'll question him about any merchants he is carrying cargo for. If I recall that any of them are likely to be interested smuggling or fencing I'll use this to help convince the Captain into scouting or smuggling for us in the future. If we can arrange any kind of future relationship or profit with him we should be able ensure his silence about us.

I recommend that for now we do not take any ships at this time. Many governors and military personnel would be more willing to turn a blind eye to acts against nations they were so recently at war with.

If he can spare any useful supplies we should we should buy at least a small amount at a more than fair price. This will at least start a business relationship with him.
I would suggest that if he can spare any crew we take volunteers. I would recommend to the captain that at least one of them be trustworthy enough to go back to Philadelphia as a go between.

I'd like to set up a scheme to take insured cargoes and making some kind of a split with the merchants. Ships coming from England will most often be insured. Not so sure about colonial vessels. If the captain can't play this game he can put us in touch with a merchant or captain that can. Those would be safe captures with a certainty of high value. Those could become scheduled prizes to mix into our other activities.
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January 6th, 1716, finished

Speaking with Captain Roberts, now aboard the Vespa while you deliberated, you are able to reach an understanding. He, like quite a few colonial merchants, is willing to engage in a bit of judicious smuggling, if the cargo is valuable to him. He is familiar with the small barrier islands off North and South Carolina, and suggests that they could make a good rendezvous in the future as his fortunes rarely cause him to venture so far south.

He swears not to give your position to the Spanish, and with a wink says that they wouldn't be hearing from him anyway, implying that he has a contact ashore to retrieve the cargo without making for the port at St. Augustine.

After a few minutes of seizing a weeks worth of foodstuffs and water, you depart, leaving Sargasso to sail towards shore.
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January 8th, 1716

For a day and a half you beat down the coast on a light quartering breeze, encountering no ships prey or foe. At the changing of the afternoon watch you sight some activity ashore where there is no apparent village. A few small boats having comings and goings at sea and back to a camp of huts and tents on the beach.

Your position is 55 leagues SSE of St. Augustine. Winds are still out of the NW but have slacked considerably, contributing to your slow progress down the coast. It is now the start of the 1st Dog Watch (1600) and the sun will be down within the next 2 hours. No sail has been sighted save for the small sails of small cutters and other boats working inshore.
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We need to check these people out carefully. Maybe a small scouting party up the beach can find out what is going on?

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Agreed.
Anchor and let's put a party ashore with the longboat after dark.
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