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Edit: There was some confusion / blank spots with the orders, which I'll talk about in the video, so some units may not be be where you think they should be.
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Mother f....! What happened in Marshes? Suddenly such large force there and looks like we`re got beaten there.

And strange that both Panzer Groups of AGC continued movement although orders were to refit.
Not that I`m complaining, but still strange...
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You had only four divisions in the Marshes before Turn 6 started. Your orders pulled two PG 2 divisions out. I offered to send a division North to threaten the Red Army divisions there and no one in AGC answered me. I can send one division North in Turn 7 if you want, but you are looking at probably sending 4th Army into the Marsh to counter the threat. I can only offer. You guys should check your social group.

I could be mistaken, but it looks like your whole PG 3 is doing a Rest and Refit?

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Whole RA tank divisions in the Pripjet marshes?
Surely not the best place for optimal use for such enemy units.

I would say: don't disturb the enemy while he is making a mistake.
Just give them minimal attention (try to keep them there) till later
and concentrate on priorities first.
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Sorry gentlemen, my internet cut out last night as I was uploading the images for y'all. It's back to working now, so I'll get them and the decisions posted asap. Look for about 2 hours for when I get back home.
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Mother f....! What happened in Marshes? Suddenly such large force there and looks like we`re got beaten there.

And strange that both Panzer Groups of AGC continued movement although orders were to refit.
Not that I`m complaining, but still strange...
I'll address this one in the video, but only one army can be ordered to refit and rest per turn - something I didn't know about before hand. The same thing happened to AGN, who wanted to rest both Armees. I had to choose which army to rest.

This also meant that a whole PG for AGC was otherwise without orders. Because of this, I gave the PG orders to move forward and secure some important bridge crossings instead of wasting a turn sitting back and doing nothing, while the other group got the R&R order.

Considering the situation I didn't want you to lose a turn of use from your PG due to unclear logistical capabilities.
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I have picked up the game yesterday and discovered that same thing myself. Thank you for moving them. You did a good job placing them.
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One thing to note is that orders are prone to human interpretation - clarity and simplicity is important. One thing I saw a few times was units being "moved" during the orders of different armies, units having the wrong numbers, and some orders which seemed off - such as not using all of a division's movement.

I'll try to resolve some issues on my end, such as moving divisions that could move a little further or can launch another successful attack, but the harder it is for me to read what is on my page increases the chances of a mistake.

Also, if I can, please try to keep your PMs to just ONE message. This makes it much easier for me to follow, doesn't fill up my small inbox, and makes it easier to avoid mistakes or missing elements.

Plus, feel free to experiment with color coding, formatting, and whatever else you like to keep it clear. A big block of text is harder to decipher than one that is broken up with spaces and such.
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On thing, I wanted my guys to take Ostrov, not drive past it.
It looks as if I will have to plant an Army HQ there to be able to claim it.

Everything else looks fine, but I will want to play my Rest one Division Card, fatigue is at a 10 for one of those Divisions and I had no idea it was that bad... wow.



OMG, look at how badly THIS guy screwed up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVpHDBORso

Yeah, I think we are doing just fine.
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