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Whistling death. The Corsair.

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Interestingly although there are numerous post war references to the Corsair being called the Whistling Death by the Japanese and the Beaufighter being called either the whistling or the whispering death. There are some that suggest that this was made up by either some Journalist or Allied PR type and has become yet another enduring myth.

Does any one know of any reliable reference to an intelligence report that indicates that the Japanese were indeed using the nickname? Or an entry in a Japanese memoirs? An interview with a Japanese survivor?
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Great plane but 2nd in aircraft kills behind the F6F which had 56% of all kills in the Pacific.
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Great plane but 2nd in aircraft kills behind the F6F which had 56% of all kills in the Pacific.
The F6F pilots must have been indulging in friendly fire to achieve that statistic, John.
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The Hellcat was a rugged aircraft that the Japanese found very hard to shoot down. Most Japanese aircraft, including the Zero, gained their great manoeuvrability at the expense of armour and resilience. Hellcat pilots reported that most Japanese aircraft they shot down either exploded or caught fire, while the Hellcat could take a great deal of damage and still stay in the air. Navy and Marine Corps Hellcats were credited with 5,156 enemy aircraft shot down (4,947 by carrier based aircraft), 75% of the Navy’s total. This gave them the outstanding kill to lose ratio of 19 to 1 in air to air combat (more were lost to anti-aircraft fire and accidents). The Hellcat shot down more Japanese aircraft, at less cost, that the F4U Corsair, despite that aircrafts slightly superior performance.
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...6F_combat.html

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One thing the video missed - not only did the FAA develop the technique of the curving approach to the carrier but they also pioneered the bulged cockpit canopy as they raised the pilot's seat to give him a better view over the nose. With this they were able to operate it even from escort carriers in atrocious weather conditions. IIRC the last RN VC of the war was won by an FAA pilot in a Corsair attacking a Japanese destroyer off the coast of Japan
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One thing the video missed - not only did the FAA develop the technique of the curving approach to the carrier but they also pioneered the bulged cockpit canopy as they raised the pilot's seat to give him a better view over the nose. With this they were able to operate it even from escort carriers in atrocious weather conditions. IIRC the last RN VC of the war was won by an FAA pilot in a Corsair attacking a Japanese destroyer off the coast of Japan
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Does any one know of any reliable reference to an intelligence report that indicates that the Japanese were indeed using the nickname? Or an entry in a Japanese memoirs? An interview with a Japanese survivor?
All indications are that this was just propaganda, as are the vast majority of nicknames claimed to have been given by enemy forces to aircraft.
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The story of the Japanese calling it the Whistling Death can be traced back as far as Time magazine , October 1943;

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“Soon after the Corsair went into action in the Solomons, the Japanese had given it a nickname worthy of their language’s tradition of poetical allusion: “Whistling Death.” They had reason.”
But no account is given as to how the writer knew this and I doubt that the Japanese were giving interviews to Time at this date. There are unsubstantiated claims that this was originally a nickname given to it by American workers at Chance Vought's testing field.

The appellation of Whispering Death to the Beaufighter has a similar provenance apparently first appearing in a British news paper in May 1943
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Same goes with the term, Devils in Baggy Pants supposedly givevto the US airborne by the Germans. Have you ever seen how baggy the German airborne units were dressed?

All a bunch of feel good war time propaganda.
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[QUOTE=Bwaha;3262223]Some good footage and commentary.

Maybe, but don't you hate it when people deliberately murder every bit of fun there could possibly be in a thread like this by turning it into another circular argument about the most pedantic details imaginable?
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Some good footage and commentary.

Maybe, but don't you hate it when people deliberately murder every bit of fun there could possibly be in a thread like this by turning it into another circular argument about the most pedantic details imaginable?
Well if you think that the thread title is a pedantic detail
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Some good footage and commentary.

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