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29 Jun 16, 17:40
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ACG Forums - canis administrationem
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Panama Canal, the Reboot
This event may have more measurable impact on the US economy than many of the more widely reported crises of Latin America.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...xpands-passage
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When the new locks slide open for the first time in late June, the reverberations will be felt at Asian gas terminals, on Great Plains farms, and in ports from Long Beach, Calif., to Santiago, Chile.
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29 Jun 16, 17:59
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If LNG tankers can now transit the Canal, this is a BFD...  
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29 Jun 16, 18:24
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Don't the Panamanians have to split the toll revenue with Uncle Sam?
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30 Jun 16, 01:17
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I think Jimmy Carter gave the canal back to Panama.
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30 Jun 16, 05:00
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There was a plan back in the 50s to build a new lockless canal through Nicaragua using nuclear explosions. Because of this latter aspect there was a lot of opposition to the idea (including from the Nicaraguans)and it was dropped.
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30 Jun 16, 07:24
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I think Jimmy Carter gave the canal back to Panama.
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And Geo HW Bush got the Panamanians to accept an amended deal . . . .
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30 Jun 16, 08:01
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Whilst the 1977 treaty finally came into full effect in 1999 giving Panama full control of the canal, Panama Ports Company, a subsidiary of Hutcheson Port Holdings of Hong Kong part of the shipping firm Hutcheson-Whampoa, Ltd., began a 25-year lease (with an 25-year renewal option) to operate port facilities at Balboa (Pacific side of the canal) and Cristobal (Atlantic side of the canal). This benefits China as the main user of the canal.
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04 Jul 16, 23:10
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I visited the Canal area last November as part of a small military reunion of tactical instructors from the former School of the Americas. Suffice it to say that Panama has grown quite a bit since we served there in the 60s, 70, 80s, and 90s.
The Panama Canal Railroad Corporation is definitely not the old Ferrocarriles de Panama that we knew. You can find some nice photos of a train trip here. Unfortunately, thy don't capture the enormous forest of maritime cranes surrounding Manzanillas Bay and the rail yars at Balboa, which dwarf everything we had in 1999.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...et=-1&filter=7
The Chinese are also suspicious of Hutcheson-Whampoa, and while their merchant fleet and commerce may be the big benefactor, much of there maritime fleet had been idle these past few years.
Note the use of English language in the Company's name. Prior to 1999, everything had to be in Spanish, as if they were making up for the CZ years.
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31 Jul 16, 20:45
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Ship hits wall of Panama Canal, renews design concerns
Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:20pm EDT - HOUSTON | BY LIZ HAMPTON AND MARIANNA PARRAGA
A Chinese container ship hit a wall of the new lane of the Panama Canal, a Canal Authority official and a local ship agent said on Monday, the third such incident since the expanded waterway opened one month ago amid design concerns. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sh...-idUSKCN1052FC
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31 Jul 16, 23:52
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That looks like a pilot problem. Hmmm, I wonder how the three hits stack up against Pan Canal pilot statistics from the Canal Zone days. The world is watching.
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01 Aug 16, 10:00
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They say that they don't use the locomotives to position and pull the ships through the locks anymore. They have to use tugs, and there isn't enough room for the tugs to maneuver. Maybe they should get some Great Lakes captains to train their pilots. All Great Lakes captains have to be licensed pilots and take their ships through locks (Soo, Welland and St Lawrence) and up winding rivers (Cuyahoga, Rouge, etc.) all by their lonesome.
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01 Aug 16, 10:34
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Sea going vessels use the locks on the River Severn and whilst they are tiddlers compared to the stuff on the PC if you're on a narrow boat sharing a lock with one they look worryingly big.
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02 Aug 16, 17:58
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Originally Posted by johns624
They say that they don't use the locomotives to position and pull the ships through the locks anymore.
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Why not? They virtually eliminated error. They were brilliant.
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02 Aug 16, 18:07
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Originally Posted by slick_miester
Why not? They virtually eliminated error. They were brilliant.
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I don't know. They probably had to rip out the tracks to widen the locks. Maybe the locomotives needed to be replaced or weren't powerful enough for the larger ships? Maybe the person in charge has a relative that owns a tugboat company?
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