I could have done a summary, but it was such a worthwhile 36 minutes that I heartily suggest you give it a listen.
Some VERY basic facts are in that thing that ought to be revealed, and talked about.
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If your argument is that the government doesn't spy on its own citizens then you're completely oblivious to reality.
Blaming the Las Vegas massacre on gun owners is like blaming 9-11 on frequent fliers.
The only thing worse than what happened to the Native Americans is being a Native American today and having to a bunch of white guys whining about it.
If you really care, leave.
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Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.
Anyone born here is native to this country, doesn't matter if you're white, black, or an actual American Indian. I'm as Native American as anyone else. Sheesh, this is a label that's really starting to grind my gears lately.
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The only thing worse than what happened to the Native Americans is being a Native American today and having to a bunch of white guys whining about it.
If you really care, leave.
I've been saying the same for years to anybody white who whines about Indians. Go find an Indian and give them your job, your home, your bank account and every thing you have and then go back to Europe and you can whine about Indians! The best thing we can do for the American Indian is abolish the BIA and the reservations and let them live just like every other citizen.
I've been saying the same for years to anybody white who whines about Indians. Go find an Indian and give them your job, your home, your bank account and every thing you have and then go back to Europe and you can whine about Indians! The best thing we can do for the American Indian is abolish the BIA and the reservations and let them live just like every other citizen.
Thing is, those whining whites...are they actually from Europe, or were they born here just like the rest of us (US citizens). They couldn't just "go back" then, could they, they'd be abandoning their homes and family.
And as for abolishing reservations...I was in Arizona last month. Navajo nation. They're doing just fine, and in most instances I saw, doing better than I was. Kudos to them, but don't expect any more sympathy from me.
But neither am I going to stand around and let anyone bad mouth a culture I still respect (regardless of the entitlement some display) without an argumentative education forthcoming from me.
__________________ The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?
So... no arguments with the facts and figures presented. or the way they were documented in the list of sources?
Just checking.
Oh, yeah, the actual topic at hand. My apologies. Let's get back to it.
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The only thing worse than what happened to the Native Americans is being a Native American today and having to a bunch of white guys whining about it.
If you really care, leave.
I just wanted you to know that anytime I played cowboys and indians as a kid I always wanted to be an indian.
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Thing is, those whining whites...are they actually from Europe, or were they born here just like the rest of us (US citizens). They couldn't just "go back" then, could they, they'd be abandoning their homes and family.
You mean like the Indians were forced to do?
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Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.
So... no arguments with the facts and figures presented. or the way they were documented in the list of sources?
Just checking.
Mostly debunked junk that angst-ridden whites toss around.
Keep in mind that the Plains Indians cheered on the body count on Trail of Tears, because we didn't want those eastern coming out west any more than we wanted the whites.
Any study that lumps all NA together is hopelessly flawed. The whites interrupted a number of promising wars that had lasted generations.
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Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.
Which Indians? The ones alive today that schisted me out of some of my money in Arizona? The ones that are so well off that every one I met was a bit obese from the good life? The ones living on a "reservation" so vast that it's larger than some states in the East, that contain many of this countries natural wonders, in some of the most beautiful land that this continent has to offer, which they charge whatever the heck they want for vacationers to take pictures of? Or the ones that haven't been around for a hundred years that were definitely forced to do this by whites that haven't been around for a hundred years?
__________________ The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?
Which Indians? The ones alive today that schisted me out of some of my money in Arizona? The ones that are so well off that every one I met was a bit obese from the good life? The ones living on a "reservation" so vast that it's larger than some states in the East, that contain many of this countries natural wonders, in some of the most beautiful land that this continent has to offer, which they charge whatever the heck they want for vacationers to take pictures of? Or the ones that haven't been around for a hundred years that were definitely forced to do this by whites that haven't been around for a hundred years?
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Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.
I'm sorry, Ex. I'll bow out and let the thread return to what you hoped it would be.
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coming out west any more than we wanted the whites.
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