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Native American Genocide...?

Something i have long suspected -



And if you want to get into his sources, its all here;
https://board.freedomainradio.com/to...ican-genocide/

I could have done a summary, but it was such a worthwhile 36 minutes that I heartily suggest you give it a listen.
Some VERY basic facts are in that thing that ought to be revealed, and talked about.
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The only thing worse than what happened to the Native Americans is being a Native American today and having to a bunch of white guys whining about it.

If you really care, leave.
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"Native American"

Anyone born here is native to this country, doesn't matter if you're white, black, or an actual American Indian. I'm as Native American as anyone else. Sheesh, this is a label that's really starting to grind my gears lately.
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The only thing worse than what happened to the Native Americans is being a Native American today and having to a bunch of white guys whining about it.

If you really care, leave.

I've been saying the same for years to anybody white who whines about Indians. Go find an Indian and give them your job, your home, your bank account and every thing you have and then go back to Europe and you can whine about Indians! The best thing we can do for the American Indian is abolish the BIA and the reservations and let them live just like every other citizen.
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I've been saying the same for years to anybody white who whines about Indians. Go find an Indian and give them your job, your home, your bank account and every thing you have and then go back to Europe and you can whine about Indians! The best thing we can do for the American Indian is abolish the BIA and the reservations and let them live just like every other citizen.
Thing is, those whining whites...are they actually from Europe, or were they born here just like the rest of us (US citizens). They couldn't just "go back" then, could they, they'd be abandoning their homes and family.

And as for abolishing reservations...I was in Arizona last month. Navajo nation. They're doing just fine, and in most instances I saw, doing better than I was. Kudos to them, but don't expect any more sympathy from me.

But neither am I going to stand around and let anyone bad mouth a culture I still respect (regardless of the entitlement some display) without an argumentative education forthcoming from me.
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So... no arguments with the facts and figures presented. or the way they were documented in the list of sources?

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So... no arguments with the facts and figures presented. or the way they were documented in the list of sources?

Just checking.
Oh, yeah, the actual topic at hand. My apologies. Let's get back to it.
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I just wanted you to know that anytime I played cowboys and indians as a kid I always wanted to be an indian.

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Thing is, those whining whites...are they actually from Europe, or were they born here just like the rest of us (US citizens). They couldn't just "go back" then, could they, they'd be abandoning their homes and family.
You mean like the Indians were forced to do?
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So... no arguments with the facts and figures presented. or the way they were documented in the list of sources?

Just checking.
Mostly debunked junk that angst-ridden whites toss around.

Keep in mind that the Plains Indians cheered on the body count on Trail of Tears, because we didn't want those eastern coming out west any more than we wanted the whites.

Any study that lumps all NA together is hopelessly flawed. The whites interrupted a number of promising wars that had lasted generations.
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You mean like the Indians were forced to do?


Which Indians? The ones alive today that schisted me out of some of my money in Arizona? The ones that are so well off that every one I met was a bit obese from the good life? The ones living on a "reservation" so vast that it's larger than some states in the East, that contain many of this countries natural wonders, in some of the most beautiful land that this continent has to offer, which they charge whatever the heck they want for vacationers to take pictures of? Or the ones that haven't been around for a hundred years that were definitely forced to do this by whites that haven't been around for a hundred years?
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Which Indians? The ones alive today that schisted me out of some of my money in Arizona? The ones that are so well off that every one I met was a bit obese from the good life? The ones living on a "reservation" so vast that it's larger than some states in the East, that contain many of this countries natural wonders, in some of the most beautiful land that this continent has to offer, which they charge whatever the heck they want for vacationers to take pictures of? Or the ones that haven't been around for a hundred years that were definitely forced to do this by whites that haven't been around for a hundred years?
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I just wanted you to know that anytime I played cowboys and indians as a kid I always wanted to be an indian.

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So... you did watch it?

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