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Does the Geneva Convention outlaw ALL spike bayonets?

Just thinking... since I'm on this forums, it's obvious I have an interest in military stuff. :P

Anyway, I was surfing the 'Net and I cam across this article, which gives a pretty good argument for replacing "knife bayonets" with traditional spike bayonets.

However this Wikipedia article says that the "Geneva Accords on Humane Warfare" banned "triangular and cross-sectional bayonets ... because the wounds they produce do not close easily, and were said to be inhumane, though such designs are, despite this, not uncommon even today."

In fact, looking on the Internet, it said that the British No.4, Mk. 1 cruciform spike bayonet was used by UK forces in WWII but later was destroyed because it violated the Geneva Convention.

Does anyone know if you can make a spike bayonet without violating the Geneva Convention, or must those who wish to abide by the "Accords of Humans Warfare" stuck with ol' knife-bayonets.

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So its ok to stab people with knives but if you stab them with a spike whoa! thats inhumane.
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Sort of like its illegal to shoot someone with a .50 bullet under the Geneva conventions. Reminds me of what a friend told me though “You can shoot at equipment with a .50 bullet, so you shoot at their gun, their backpack and their equipment belt, you cant help it if you miss.”
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So its ok to stab people with knives but if you stab them with a spike whoa! thats inhumane.
Uh oh, Dr. S! We have to disable your burmese tiger traps!

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So if on the current battlefield, you killed someone with a vintage Brown Bess equipped with a triangular bayonet you could be prosecuted for war crimes?
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Yeah I have a old musket with a triangular bayonette, so lets say I killed a enemy with it, would that mean war crimes?
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No we don't, I never signed up to the Conventions!

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Besides the Finnish bayonet that is modelled on the traditional Finnish knife, the Puukko, that is basically like a mini samurai sword, with a curved end, no tanto.
This has a pretty thick blunt side, and would defenately leave a nasty bleeder in anyone unfortunate enough to get stabbed with it.
And I think the same applies to most bayonets, they are often pretty wide, leaving a duct for the bloodflow big enough to make anybody receiving a thrust, a very miserable being indeed!
Sounds like a ridiculous 'law'.
If anything, the 'rat tail' models, as the Finns called the old style spike bayonets the Russians carried in ww2, are inferior in killing power!
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