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China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC)

China is investing heavily in Pakistan and in return they expect Chinese nationals there to be safeguarded from danger. So far, Pakistan have kept their end of the deal.

The rest of the region is still very dangerous and Chinese workers and executives do not venture outside of Gwadar, even with security. I wonder how long Pakistan's armed forces and interior ministry can continue keeping them safe.

In the Baluchistan province, separatist rebels are opposed to this project and resent the military crackdown. They are also near the Afghan-Pakistan border where many other Islamist terrorist groups are based.



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Gwadar, Pakistan: Heavy police presence, guarded convoys, new checkpoints and troop reinforcements have turned parts of the southern port city of Gwadar into a fortress, as Pakistan's powerful military seeks to protect billions of dollars of Chinese investment.

Securing the planned $46 billion economic corridor of roads, railways and pipelines from northwest China to Pakistan's Arabian Sea coast is a huge challenge in a country where Islamist militants and separatist gunmen are a constant menace.

The armed forces and interior ministry have sent hundreds of extra soldiers and police to Gwadar, the southern hub of the so-called China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), and more are on their way.

Keeping foreign workers and executives safe in Gwadar, which has expanded significantly over the last 15 years largely thanks to Chinese investment, is relatively straightforward.

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The agreement with China for the investment and Chinese workers to complete and maintain this economic corridor includes a provision for thousands of Chinese security elements. These "private" security elements are to protect Chinese investments and Chinese personnel involved in operating and constructing the corridor and port. If I recall correctly Pakistan agreed to up to 20,000 Chinese to be used for security.
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I did not know that Pakistan will be hiring Chinese security to protect Chinese nationals in Gwadar.
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I worthless two sense tells me that there would be trouble down the road.

1. It is very important for Chinese Investment flows into Pakistan. Since US relations has been cooled since the discovery of Bin Laden and killing in Pakistan, China is the only country providing steady arm sales to Pakistan. President Xi's last visit was greeted by Pakistan Air Forces latest Chinese made IDF fighter jets, and also Pakistan has received at least two of the latest Chinese made Submarines. Both countries has significant interests keeping India in check.

2. But you know the story of a frog helping a scorpion crossing the river? Well, I'm afraid it's only matter of time that scorpion still sting. Radical Islam does not have border, and Pakistan is no exception. Pakistan to Chinese will be like the Saudis to US. There will be real love and hate relations.
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I did not know that Pakistan will be hiring Chinese security to protect Chinese nationals in Gwadar.
They would not be hiring them they would be provided by and working for the Chinese.
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Expensive.
But it comes with huge dividends for China.

1. Profits from port operations
2. A naval base near the Persian Gulf, Africa and western India with a direct rail link to China (when completed)
3. Pakistan expelling, surrendering and denying support to Chines Muslims
4. Strengthening alliance with Pakistan against India
5. Increased logistical support and flanking pressure in China's campaign to gain the western territories disputed with India.

The interesting thing will be the reaction of conservative Pakastani elements to prolonged exposure to the "pagan" Chinese who according to Islamic scriptures are a larger target than the "people of the book" (Christians and Jews).
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They would not be hiring them they would be provided by and working for the Chinese.

This makes sense. Pakistanis they hire for security would be beholden to the one who pays their wages, the Chinese.
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But it comes with huge dividends for China.

1. Profits from port operations
2. A naval base near the Persian Gulf, Africa and western India with a direct rail link to China (when completed)
3. Pakistan expelling, surrendering and denying support to Chines Muslims
4. Strengthening alliance with Pakistan against India
5. Increased logistical support and flanking pressure in China's campaign to gain the western territories disputed with India.

The interesting thing will be the reaction of conservative Pakastani elements to prolonged exposure to the "pagan" Chinese who according to Islamic scriptures are a larger target than the "people of the book" (Christians and Jews).
Oh no doubt. And let's not forget the naval sigint China will be gathering.

Maybe the cost won't be so much if they'll send in "decommissioned" PLA units. That'll make the situation more interesting...

Regarding religion, yes that's an interesting point, let's see how far their "brotherhood" goes.
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There's been many attacks targeting projects along the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor since construction began last year, thus more delays. Pakistan has deployed 14,503 security guards to protect 7,036 Chinese nationals working on this massive project. The cost of security is very expensive and continues to rise. Beijing have recently implied they may start looking into Southeast Asia for alternative economic opportunities.
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China now want India to participate in this huge project, they are even considering changing the name of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). This will make India happy but will upset Pakistan...
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