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Time to start to break the NRA stranglehold over craven, cowed and compliant congress

Time to at least start breaking the NRA stranglehold over craven, cowed and compliant congress?

Brilliant stuff yet again from the 'Daily News'!
God, prayers and puerile platitudes are most definitely NOT GONNA fix this.
People however, eventually probably will.

Just needs one or more courageous politico's or individuals to stare down these nutters and the ball to actually get legislation passed will start rolling properly.

It's gonna have to happen sooner or later.
Probably gonna be longer and harder than the struggle for civil rights.

What the hell is the matter with your politicians over there for Pete's sake?
JUST HOW DOES THE NRA exert so much influence?
Money?, lobbyists?, hand on heart homages to the constitution?

Hmmmm...interesting year 2016 coming up methinks.

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Blaming an organization that protects a constitutional right because elected officials do such a terrible job at it.......Riiiiiiight.

Next time neo-Nazis hold a parade, we should sue the ACLU?
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JUST HOW DOES THE NRA exert so much influence?
Money?, lobbyists?, hand on heart homages to the constitution?
They agree with their audience and find clever ways to express that agreement.

That's still the best way to gain influence.

You should take tuition on the subject - you would exert more influence in this manner
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Sorry buddy buy your problem isn't with the NRA, it's with the American people. They are the ones preventing new gun legislation, not the all powerful bogeyman the left seems to think the NRA is. Like it or not most Americans don't want out laws changed and either recognize that it wouldn't help anything or are willing to shoulder the price of liberty. In fact every time the government starts talking about gun control gun sales skyrocket. Obama has done more to increase the spread of firearms in the country than anyone in decades. They had their chance in 2012 and they failed. I don't mean to sound callous but if a bunch of dead schoolchildren isn't enough for scare us into changing our laws and giving up our hard earned freedoms, nothing is. We're stronger than that and I'm proud of this country for it.

So in short, it ain't gonna change, so mind your own business and deal with it.
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JUST HOW DOES THE NRA exert so much influence?
Through millions of individual law abiding citizens that have recognize the threat of an ever increasing oppressive government more then willing to step all over their individual rights by becoming a member of an organization who's objective is to protect their constitutional right to bear arms.

Should Progressives ever succeed in eliminating the Second Amendment, all other rights will soon follow including the right to have opinion forums such as this one.

Eliminating an inanimate object used to kill by someone with evil intent never eliminate the evil intent by someone that will kill. You need to eliminate the evil intent by that person or lock him up so he can't kill. You only need to look at the numerous cases of people being deliberately killed and maimed by knives, hammers, baseball bats, flammable liquids, household chemicals, cement blocks, cars, one's fist, feet, etc... to see that banning everything will not stop a person with evil intent from killing.

Here is a job for you. Go to this website. Keep an eye on these so called assault weapon to make sure they don't kill someone.
http://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/
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It's gonna have to happen sooner or later.
Probably gonna be longer and harder than the struggle for civil rights.

What the hell is the matter with your politicians over there for Pete's sake?
JUST HOW DOES THE NRA exert so much influence?
Money?, lobbyists?, hand on heart homages to the constitution?
Great thinking there Lodestar...

Islamist terrorist kill innocent people and you want to disarm law abiding citizens......
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Great thinking there Lodestar...

Islamist terrorist kill innocent people and you want to disarm law abiding citizens......


He wants to blame an organization that had nothing to do with the event in any way, shape or form.

Is there a way we can blame this on the Irish too?
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What part of "shall not be infringed" do people not understand?
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Time to at least start breaking the NRA stranglehold over craven, cowed and compliant congress?

Brilliant stuff yet again from the 'Daily News'!
God, prayers and puerile platitudes are most definitely NOT GONNA fix this.
People however, eventually probably will.

Just needs one or more courageous politico's or individuals to stare down these nutters and the ball to actually get legislation passed will start rolling properly.

It's gonna have to happen sooner or later.
Probably gonna be longer and harder than the struggle for civil rights.

What the hell is the matter with your politicians over there for Pete's sake?
JUST HOW DOES THE NRA exert so much influence?
Money?, lobbyists?, hand on heart homages to the constitution?

Hmmmm...interesting year 2016 coming up methinks.

lodestar makes it a point of personal honour and public policy never to engage his brain before opening his mouth.... an approach which to date has yielded brilliance, sheer brilliance.

Regards lodestar
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I heard, on the follow up to the shootings (you know, where the talking heads start pontificating...), a college student (how does one designate a female college student since co-ed is passe'?), uttered the most nonsensical statement of all: "...but what about MY safety?"

Notes on the "take":

1) This is probably the same specimen who was marching just last week in protest to "heavyhanded" police work.

2) I suspect that she wants the police to protect her... ????? (Good luck, bad guys don't strike when there is police around. Perhaps she will have a full time policeman around. Who knows?)

3) If she is not willing to put up a little in her own defense.... perhaps she is willing to have me do it instead? (I don't get paid for that.)

4) Poor little thing STILL hasn't run across the little ups and downs of life as yet. (Such a sheltered life!)

5) You so worried about "your safety", start packing or shut up. (In this life you're on your own!) My wife does, not about terrorists, mind you, but about the homeless that hang around downtown (where she works) and have been the cause of some discontent lately.

6) "I guess we're not in Kansas anymore, Toto." (No shi*.)

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Time to at least start breaking the NRA stranglehold over craven, cowed and compliant congress?

Brilliant stuff yet again from the 'Daily News'!
God, prayers and puerile platitudes are most definitely NOT GONNA fix this.
People however, eventually probably will.

Just needs one or more courageous politico's or individuals to stare down these nutters and the ball to actually get legislation passed will start rolling properly.

It's gonna have to happen sooner or later.
Probably gonna be longer and harder than the struggle for civil rights.

What the hell is the matter with your politicians over there for Pete's sake?
JUST HOW DOES THE NRA exert so much influence?
Money?, lobbyists?, hand on heart homages to the constitution?

Hmmmm...interesting year 2016 coming up methinks.

lodestar makes it a point of personal honour and public policy never to engage his brain before opening his mouth.... an approach which to date has yielded brilliance, sheer brilliance.

Regards lodestar
Lodestar should consider, and carefully read, the Second Amendment to the American Constitution:

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Lodestar should also carefully consider this: When the police can no longer protect the lives and safety of the national citizenry, the citizens have the right to protect themselves. Otherwise, a state of anarchy exists and the government can no longer stand.

Lodestar should also remember from time to time that he lives in Australia, many thousands of miles away, and should therefore be careful not to judge over 300 million Americans by the acts of the few. Lodestar should also avoid as much as possible referring to the vast majority of law abiding citizens of America as "nutters", lest this cast doubts upon his judgement.

This thoughtful and well written response has been brought to you by Mountain Man, who actually does live in America.
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I guess Lodestar is confused about what nation he lives in again. Is he still ranting in the third person?
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