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Don't they prescribe methadone for opiate withdrawal?
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Don't they prescribe methadone for opiate withdrawal?
Have you seen the side effects of methadone? Blindness suit you? Various organs deciding to stop functioning? That's not the path that I'd recommend to my worst enemy...

Even if hated them I wouldn't suggest that path...
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Have you seen the side effects of methadone? Blindness suit you? Various organs deciding to stop functioning? That's not the path that I'd recommend to my worst enemy...

Even if hated them I wouldn't suggest that path...
I certainly can't claim to have researched it but I do know several people who have successfully used methadone. Like all medications the side effects would have to be weighed against the other negative consequences of withdrawal including the risk of giving up on cold turkey and returning to opiate use and increased physical dependence.
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I have dropped my dose by another 20mg and if I can keep this up I will be clear in a couple of weeks.
Unfortunately the 24 hour loop heart monitor I had on picked up some episodes of VT, so I'm still stuck in hospital while they tamper with my heart meds.
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I have joined a drug and alcohol rehab program, I will be meeting their doctor for a medical in Monday and will then start a proper tapered withdrawal under medical supervision. I may want to rush into things and my doctor wants to stop prescribing, he finally realised he was doing wrong, but at the end of the day I take the pills for severe pain and that issue has been ignored by my doctor.
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Great to hear you are reaching out. There are lots of people who have developed a drug dependence due to pain and if you are still experiencing pain, I think it is extraordinarily difficult to avoid all the horrors of addiction unless you get some specialized help.
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I have up until now, 00:57 Saturday morning, it's only after a wake up call on my birthday last weekend that I realised how bad my addiction to this drug had got. My wife uses it possibly once or twice a month for migraines( I am talking about the quick release capsules). The previous week I got a prescription for 168 20mg pills and took them all in a week, I then collected her pills of 56 10mg and over 3 days took all but 3,
Predictably I ran out and started some nasty withdrawal the morning after my 50th birthday.
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The withdrawal is getting worse now and I'm finding it difficult to stay on track, so if any of you believe in God please say a prayer for me because I need his help too.
Queensman, missed this earlier; have to say, it's a brutal way of getting to the reality. This isn't that unusual; a lot of individuals start out thinking no big deal and then something pushes them over the edge and down the hill. It's amazing how one can game the system, isn't it?
Hang in there, as stated earlier, some days will be bad, some days will be good, it's the goal that counts. Glad to hear you had a nurse advocate helping you out, lots of times the system can just make you lost in the numbers. Also, glad to hear you've joined a rehab program; one of my nurse associates swears by it, says they help her out because many people don't understand the pain/issues one has but the rehab people do, with no judgments. Keep it up!
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While I have been typing my previous post unknown to me a Nhs Nigerian nurse, who I had opened up to earlier, had been working on my behalf. She pestered the doctor on call to come up and prescribe me 10mg on request so I could follow the pain teams advice and guidance. I was wondering why I could hear her raising her voice. I expect to be back on track now within the next ten minutes and to have reduced it to three pills a day by Monday and a further pill every second Monday until I can stop for EVER😀😀😀
I will admit though that for a short period while in a controlled environment like a hospital, oxycodone is a very effective pain killer. The problem starts when your sent home while still in pain.
When I was injured many years ago in the army, I was given morphine for a few weeks, I asked if I could go back to my regiment after a couple of weeks and have some pills.
I was told that if I needed strong pain relief while on duty, would mean they had not done their job of fixing me back up. Also I would fail a compulsory drug test if everyone was tested, no second chances.
Find out something to get your mind off this thing as well. I can't say I am really addicted to anything, but I do smoke every blunt that comes my way, and the best way not to is to simply have something else to do. If that something else doesn't make you forget the pills at least for a while: find something else.

And in any case you've already done the worst regarding your addiction; stolen and lied for it. Although physical withdrawals can be bad, they are never insurmountable, whereas the mental addiction is much worse. Especially since when keeping it a secret it only feeds itself...and in ways, even stuff like "I can't stop cold turkey because of my hear condition" is just another excuse to take pills.
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I'm going to change my name to lucky after having a further 3 stents added to my coronary arteries on Saturday night while having a non ST elevated myocardial infarcaction.
Swapped the oxy for morphine😉.
It has helped because I only had two doses on Saturday and have survived until tonight without any other pain relief, which means OxyContin and Oxynorm..
I do have some but am managing without it.
Saturday's total is now 14 pci interventions with 8 NSTEMI and 5 MI's.
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I don't know what any of those acronyms even mean...?
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I don't know what any of those acronyms even mean...?
NSTEMI - Non ST-segment elevation myocardial infarction = heart attack with blood markers for heart attack and no obvious EKG data sets vs. :
MI - myocardial infarction = heart attack with EKG data examples
PCI interventions - Percutaneous coronary intervention = angioplasties where the cardio guys will put a balloon or a stent to expand the artery to allow blood flow.

Geez, QMan, you're got some issues that's for sure. Not sure setting these kinds of records is the way to go. But hang in there and do the best you can. Prayers to you.

EDIT : Apparently, I have way too many of my wifes' medical magazines in the bathroom.
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The latest update, I got my dosage down to 20mg a day but a fee weeks ago I had to deal with four deaths of people close to me, an aunt, uncle and two old and bold, not that old 50's, ex brothers in arms. As a result I turned to the oxy to make me feel better, it did for a couple of weeks before I woke up and smelt the coffee, my grown up kids challenged me and pointed out that I'm destroying my marriage.
It worked.
I have now enlisted into a new structured drug rehab program and got the dose down to 60mg, from next week it will drop to 10mg while I take buprenorphine, which works in a way similar to methadone but it's not as strong. It supposedly takes away the craving in your mind for the drug as well as having the same effect as naloxone by blocking the effects of opioid miss use.
It's been a struggle going to four funerals in a couple of weeks, the last one I was in hospital but they let me out for a few hours with one of the nurses who was a friend and also off duty. In fact we were back before anyone else knew I was gone. I met some other old army muckers at the funeral and a couple of mates are coming up to stay with me in a couple of weeks time.
I reckon that will help me because I actually think I'm becoming unhinged in my mind, and I have been finding life in general very hard to cope with.
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