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Old 23 Dec 15, 15:31
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I went to see my doctor earlier and he refused to give me any meds, he did ask if I had a 24 hour supply left, which I have, because he is contacting the pain team at the hospital that did the surgery. He says he will speak to them before issuing anymore pills, which is quite sensible considering he could get in trouble for over medicating, he also said he is aware I can't go cold turkey because of my heart problems, which unfortunately has been rearing Its ugly head again.
Weird as it sounds, if I were to have another heart problem requiring a stay in hospital it would help me out, unfortunately It is usually a life or death situation.
I will speak to my doctor tomorrow and hopefully get on a monitored programme which will help. Otherwise I shall lock myself in the back room and take a tour of hell
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That's interesting and sucky at the same time; so he has to get the ok with the pain team first before starting you on a monitored program? He doesn't get the final on that? Or is that the English NHS way of doing things? Man, I'd push it with that doc before having to go the hard way, especially with a bum ticker.
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Old 23 Dec 15, 17:06
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I did mention and he is fully aware that if I went cold turkey I would probably end up having another heart attack or arrhythmia problem such as SVT.
All I want is to get through Christmas and the new year and get back to my normal pugnacious state.
I am hoping that my doc will give me a weeks supply otherwise it will be a rather short Christmas once the withdrawal symptoms kick in again, I've tried going without and I know I can't cope physically as well as mentally
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Huh, it's a queer way of doing healthcare for this time of year, usually docs try to make sure you don't have to come back until the new year is well underway. However, not too surprising, sometimes they're really busy and can't pay enough attention. Usually for my wife, the problem is when people don't take care to make sure they have the appropriate quantities of meds before the weekend or going out of town. And then, suddenly, they're making 2AM emergency phone calls asking for refills when they're in some exotic place where there is no pharmacy or at least one that's open at that time of day.
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Righty Ho a sitrep to what's happening.
It's 02:27 and I haven't had any meds since 13:00. My legs are involuntary flying around as are my wrist, arms and feet. My body temp has risen to 99.8 and my heart rate is at the rate it was before intervention, roughly 115-140 bpm. My chest has been hurting on and off for 3 hours now and I have used plenty of nitrates all to no effect.
I have managed to get comfy temporarily by the use of copious amounts of amitryptaline and co- codomol, each pill 30mg codeine and 500mg paracetamol, I have now maxed out on that and won't take any more because of the damage it could do to my liver and kidneys. The two combined have given me some temporary respite from the symptoms, which is why I can type out this post. When the pills wear off I know the withdrawal will get worse and the chest pain will come back, when that happens I'm going to go to the hospital because with my track record of heart attacks and other heart problems, I could end up giving myself another MI. I am now going to see if I can get at least half and hours sleep before symptoms restart, I can feel them trying to burst out. It's horrible and most unpleasant
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I have managed an hour but now the chest pain has returned I'm going to the hospital
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I hope things improve for you soon and you find the help you need.
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I am now laying on a bed in casualty and have just been given some iv morphine, it has helped control my pain and more importantly it's helped to stop my legs from dancing and twitching. I felt like a mad drunk was using me as a string puppet.
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I have up until now, 00:57 Saturday morning, it's only after a wake up call on my birthday last weekend that I realised how bad my addiction to this drug had got. My wife uses it possibly once or twice a month for migraines( I am talking about the quick release capsules). The previous week I got a prescription for 168 20mg pills and took them all in a week, I then collected her pills of 56 10mg and over 3 days took all but 3,
Predictably I ran out and started some nasty withdrawal the morning after my 50th birthday.
It was while I was in the emergency dept that my wife found her pills gone, she text me and a new stage of my life started. I admitted I had a problem and she is going to help me. Obviously she was extremely upset and even more so when I told her I had been siphoning her pills for 8 months.
She went to our family doctor and berated him for supplying so many pills but I knew what I was doing and I had played the doctor at his own game by going to the surgery on his day off with a repeat form in my pocket, I would book in with another doctor as an urgent appt and just casually ask if they would give me a prescription after presenting my form. My doctor hadn't done a medication review for over a year.
Anyway I have come clean and while I have been in hospital I have asked for psychiatric help and set in motion a proper withdrawal plan with the specialist pain team. My usage dropped by half and I agreed to drop by 10mg a week the quick release pills. To treat my neuropathic pain I was prescribed pre gabelin which I will admit has helped a lot apart from one problem, a doctor unconnected with my admission stopped my oxy completely and being the Nhs it's been impossible to reverse his decision so far, even though it's causing some pretty serious symptoms.
I'm now back to where I was on admission to hospital and it's rather unpleasant, at least my bed is closest to the bathroom so I can rush in there when I have to.
Karma is a bitch but I'm going to beat it and get my life and my wife back.
Hopefully sooner rather than later.


I started this thread with the hope that others don't follow my footsteps, I have lied to my wife, kids and myself and the self loathing is a heavy burden to carry.
So if your doctor prescribes you opiates please see if there are any alternatives first. Please don't fall into the trap of addiction.
It's ironic really because when I was a prison officer I used to be an assistant to a senior officer and we used to visit different prisons around the country lecturing on the evils of addiction, it wasn't until I left the service that I found out the guy I was working with was addicted to morphine.
The withdrawal is getting worse now and I'm finding it difficult to stay on track, so if any of you believe in God please say a prayer for me because I need his help too.
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First of all you've got my prayers. Second, I wasn't joking about medical pot. Look at it like a medicine. Really.

It will both calm you and get rid of pain. Without addiction. You can walk away from it at any time without any withdrawals. Get off your high horse and try it. What do you have to lose? (Except a opiate addiction...)

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While I have been typing my previous post unknown to me a Nhs Nigerian nurse, who I had opened up to earlier, had been working on my behalf. She pestered the doctor on call to come up and prescribe me 10mg on request so I could follow the pain teams advice and guidance. I was wondering why I could hear her raising her voice. I expect to be back on track now within the next ten minutes and to have reduced it to three pills a day by Monday and a further pill every second Monday until I can stop for EVER😀😀😀
I will admit though that for a short period while in a controlled environment like a hospital, oxycodone is a very effective pain killer. The problem starts when your sent home while still in pain.
When I was injured many years ago in the army, I was given morphine for a few weeks, I asked if I could go back to my regiment after a couple of weeks and have some pills.
I was told that if I needed strong pain relief while on duty, would mean they had not done their job of fixing me back up. Also I would fail a compulsory drug test if everyone was tested, no second chances.
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First of all you've got my prayers. Second, I wasn't joking about medical pot. Look at it like a medicine. Really.

It will both calm you and get rid of pain. Without addiction. You can walk away from it at any time without any withdrawals. Get off your high horse and try it. What do you have to lose? (Except a opiate addiction...)

Seriously.

I can't get it legally, and I'm also a non smoker. But if all else fails again I can easily obtain some from my neighbour who thinks he is Bob Marley, seriously he must smoke about 30 a day😷
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First of all you've got my prayers. Second, I wasn't joking about medical pot. Look at it like a medicine. Really.

It will both calm you and get rid of pain. Without addiction. You can walk away from it at any time without any withdrawals. Get off your high horse and try it. What do you have to lose? (Except a opiate addiction...)

Seriously.

What time is it in your part of the world? I'm curios😊
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I can't get it legally, and I'm also a non smoker. But if all else fails again I can easily obtain some from my neighbour who thinks he is Bob Marley, seriously he must smoke about 30 a day😷
Ask him about it. I don't have a horse in this race. It's just that it worked for me. The the thing is they've worked out that different strains have different effects. Used as a medicine properly it'll deal with your PTSD and get rid of your pain.

Do some research and find out what you want/ need.

Also you can turn it into butter and use it for brownies or cookies.

It's not about getting high, its about fixing your illness...

Big pharma doesn't want you or others hearing about this because they'd lose $$$. But you owe it to yourself and your family to be informed.

Then solve the problem and live a happy life.
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