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OxyContin withdrawal

Ok here goes, I have been using the above drug after my surgery in May, it's been a great help in doing its job but I found its a bit too much fun to use.
Last night I started cold turkey withdrawal and the last 24 hours has been hell on earth, I went to see my doc who advised against the way I was doing things but he gave me some meds to help counter the cramping in my arms, legs and whole body, he also said that it could trigger off my heart condition from stress. I'm going back to see him tomorrow afternoon to see how things are progressing and while the meds I have taken do there job I might be able to get a couple of hours sleep. I have come to realise that I have issues that need to be resolved including the PTSD I was told I have many years after leaving the army and prison service.
I haven't a clue why I started this thread, is it for sympathy, help, or just in the hope of speaking to someone else who has gone through what I am going through right now.
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I can't take the stuff myself. Makes me sick as the proverbial dog.

No problem just starting a thread to talk about your problems. However we should probably move it to a more appropriate area of the forums.

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I can't take the stuff myself. Makes me sick as the proverbial dog.



No problem just starting a thread to talk about your problems. However we should probably move it to a more appropriate area of the forums.



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That seems like a very good idea, in fact I looked up a couple of things concerning military medicine
http://youtu.be/n-rWnQphPdQ
http://youtu.be/zLCzR34HfVQ
I have to admit it seemed a bit stupid putting rifles, smg's and a CG84 into the hands of marines high on acid even if there is no ammunition, they weren't using blanks either as far as I could see( no BFA's, blank firing attachment).
The US one was quite funny too.
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I have had several friends with the very same problem. Both said the withdrawals were horrible. One was cold-turkey the other was off and on for a while 1st and has other drug problems.

Could you do you withdrawal thing gradually? Cold is extra-hard on the body/mind.

Surely your doctor can give you something to help/make you sleep... which is one of the most important things. Another is diet as you likely were not eating properly if on that stuff. Another is advice, family and friends... like here hoping to help. I actually love pain medications because it helps old soreness in my neck, back and sometimes for bad headaches. I too would take in excess if I had an easy oportunity... but I don't. My wife has R-arthritis and has to take Lortabs regularly... she will give me one if I have a migraine or something. Others I have to get from doctor if I get bad off.

Anyway... let off steam here and ask/say anything you feel like.

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One think that helped when I was going cold-turkey on tobacco was to keep track of the days that I was clean. I'd write the date down and then the same note: "Do you want to repeat this day?" (No, I didn't.) Then I rate the day on a scale of 100, that being the worst day/the first day. My tally kept me informed that I was, indeed, making progress.

Also, when I really sick back in '60-'07 they had me on 270 mg of Oxy a day. The worked right up to the time I had to drive myself to the hospital (four blocks away) in full respiratory arrest. I woke up a month later with no withdrawal symptoms. It's not a system I would recommend.
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I almost had a heart attack trying cold turkey, my body couldn't cope without it and it just made previous health problems more acute.
However from 280mg a day down to the normal dose of 40mg a day ( 4x10mg).
I feel better and know that I can crack it by New Years.
My depression has come back with a vengeance though without the soft bubble of oxy to wrap myself up in.
I will look back at this one day and say wtf?😜😝
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Depression is demon... good luck.

Here is to hoping you can make do with the lower dosages. A couple of my friends say that quiting was especially hard on them... but they had to because so many pills a day had put them in such a bad way.

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They gave me too much and I went into full respiratory arrest, at which point I drove myself to the emergency room where they did an emergency tracheotomy on the floor of the ER waiting room.

After that withdrawal wasn't so bad. I don't recommend this method. YMMV
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Queensman, spoke to my wife (she's an internist) about this and she says that cold turkey is not only extremely unpleasant but statistically a problem. The better way is to taper down with medical supervision, usually the taper down period is usually equivalent to the usage period. Also as part of the taper down, because of your existing medical issues, it's easier to monitor what your body is doing as you're consistently relaying to your physician what you're going through and they can monitor your blood chemistry at the same time. Takes a lot of solid, solid work on both parties. Also, she said that usually PTSD or other trauma sufferers should find some kind of support group to work with as it helps having other people around to lean on as opposed to trying to gut it out alone. Seeing as you have PTSD from earlier (and she says, even more importantly recognizing it), do yourself a huge favor and find some group that can help you out. Give yourself every measure possible in order to achieve success. Maintain an even strain as much as possible; she says some days will be good, some will be bad, it's the goal that's important.
BTW, she also says after seeing many people who have self-medicated overtime as a personal solution to whatever, that one of the problems she has is people who use alcohol at the same time. Many times for her patients, it's the precursor to stronger stuff, so be aware of that issue as well. It's totally doable though.

PS: Don't know what your office visitation rates are but she says sometimes once a week is necessary (although she only does that when absolutely necessary, a rarity in general).
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I beat the addiction to painkillers with Medicinal Weed.

Pot's non-addictive on the physical side, (You might enjoy the psychological over much.) But it worked on the stress issues as well.
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Ok here goes, I have been using the above drug after my surgery in May, it's been a great help in doing its job but I found its a bit too much fun to use.
Last night I started cold turkey withdrawal and the last 24 hours has been hell on earth, I went to see my doc who advised against the way I was doing things but he gave me some meds to help counter the cramping in my arms, legs and whole body, he also said that it could trigger off my heart condition from stress. I'm going back to see him tomorrow afternoon to see how things are progressing and while the meds I have taken do there job I might be able to get a couple of hours sleep. I have come to realise that I have issues that need to be resolved including the PTSD I was told I have many years after leaving the army and prison service.
I haven't a clue why I started this thread, is it for sympathy, help, or just in the hope of speaking to someone else who has gone through what I am going through right now.
Your medicine helped you, but as you talk about it seems like there might be an addiction issue. Oxycontin is a serious drug and is potentially dangerous. Honestly at this point what I would recommend to you is to consider some form of medical cannabis...which would help with the pain you feel and at the same time it would be a safe and beneficial medicine to take.

Most important thing is to believe in your ability to get off the Oxycontins.
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