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Agreed on that, he was definitely no higher-up nobility. However the film was pretty bad in showing him as a commoner wearing ragged garbs like some sort of Highland tribesman. He wasn't royalty but he definitely wasn't a savage. |
He was a baronet which is a hereditary rank and part of the nobility - definitely gentry. Same as a Chevalier in France
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You know, an Aussie producing an American movie about that touches upon the British occupation of the Colonies, and people are surprised the Brits are shown in a bad light? 
Speaking as a Native American, I can't say the Brits were done any injustice...  |
Not to defend Mel, but he was born in the US and has lived in the US for years...
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06 Jul 15, 21:35
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Not to defend Mel, but he was born in the US and has lived in the US for years...
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Feel free to defend him, I have no issues with him.
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07 Jul 15, 00:05
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Not to defend Mel, but he was born in the US and has lived in the US for years...
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He still seems to harbor some pretty heavy anti-Anglo sentiment. His two blockbusters both warped history and put the English and British in a pretty demonic yet blundering and foolish light.
I'm not sure personally if he's ever said he hates Brits or not, but those two movies are pretty biased. |
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He still seems to harbor some pretty heavy anti-Anglo sentiment. His two blockbusters both warped history and put the English and British in a pretty demonic yet blundering and foolish light.
I'm not sure personally if he's ever said he hates Brits or not, but those two movies are pretty biased.
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That may be because anti- British sentiment rates well with some of the more simple sections of the community in the USA.
It's all about money really.
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07 Jul 15, 03:47
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That may be because anti- British sentiment rates well with some of the more simple sections of the community in the USA.
It's all about money really.
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That's probably it.
The average American that the film was aimed at didn't want to see a gripping and grim portrayal of the brutal War for our independence against a powerful but family-like Empire that we descended from. They want to see a buffed-out American chop and shoot up evil church-burning Redcoats with an American flag waving behind him.
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09 Jul 15, 14:31
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He still seems to harbor some pretty heavy anti-Anglo sentiment. His two blockbusters both warped history and put the English and British in a pretty demonic yet blundering and foolish light.
I'm not sure personally if he's ever said he hates Brits or not, but those two movies are pretty biased.
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That's probably the Irish ancestry working
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09 Jul 15, 14:43
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Australians also do not look on the British with deep respect. It may be related to how the Australian troops were used in both World Wars.
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09 Jul 15, 15:12
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Australians also do not look on the British with deep respect. It may be related to how the Australian troops were used in both World Wars.
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Or how Aussie-land got settled in the first place.
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Isnt he dead? Or is that just his career?
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What is "The Patriot"?
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09 Jul 15, 15:49
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Isnt he dead? Or is that just his career?
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I asked the same question about the Queen...
He acts in a movie every year, with one about to come out. He's got a directorship project in the works, I dunno when the target release is.
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What is "The Patriot"?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Patriot_(2000_film)
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I was joking 
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