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(V) "The Wars of Gods and Men"

(V) "The Wars of Gods and Men"

Title of Z. Sitchin's third volume in "The Earth Chronicles" and while it gives an overview of the near perpetual factional conflict between EnKi-ites and EnLil-ites which oft drug in their respective and subject humans, the main focus here would be the final 'Great War of the Gawds'; which included men - mostly as the pawns on the board and those who bore the brunt of the fallout, quite literally!

If the dating suggested in commemorative style by the objects of the Giza plateau is correct, than it was about 10,500 BC that the rebuilding of Earth civilizations got off and rolling. While the actual impact event may have been about five hundred years earlier (+/-), there likely were aftershocks, settlings, and climate adjustments to be made before things would be 'back to normal' with regards to Earth's biosphere.

Despite the likely case for Anunnaki 'dire straights' in the Cataclysmic aftermath, their factional differences would seem to have remained great enough that even during a period of global rebuilding, they engaged in a few conflicts/wars with each other. That several thousand years long period of rebuilding punctuated with occasional war culminated in a Great Conflict that ended about 2023 BC with the use of nuclear weapons on the Sinai located spaceport and neighboring cities (such as Sodom and Gomorrah, now possibly under the southern part of the Dead Sea). Fallout from such weapons blew eastward to poison the cities in the lands of Sumer/Akkad and it would be a few centuries before things had cooled enough that the "winning" faction leader, Marduk, could found what would be known as the Babylonian Empire.

As Sitchin points out, two pivotal events came out of the aftermath of this 'Great War'. One was the founding of the Jewish Religion/Ethnic group via Abraham's pact with 'Jeoweh', which would set a stage for other 'Earth shaking' religions from that region to follow. The other end result event was an apparent decline in direct presence of 'the gawds' in the Eurasian cultural environment. There would be some lingering direct involvement in 'fine-tuning' cultures/civilizations in the Americas, but by several hundred years ago the Anunnaki presence on Earth would seem to be almost none existant.

One might think that after 10s - 100s of thousands of years of "meddling", Humanity was free from interference and direct by it's creators, but ....

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VI.) Behind the Curtain(Veil)

VI.) Behind the Curtain(Veil)

"The Gods of Eden" is the title of William Bramley's influential book that covers ground where Sitchin has yet to tread. Understandable that given his Jewish background, Sitchin tends to taper off his researches and writings somewhat before the appearance of Christ, and later Mohammad. Bramley spends most of his book, after a brief overview/summary of much the same ground as covered by Sitchin, in developing the case for a Machiavellian like "behind the scenes" control of Earth by the Anunnaki.

While appearing to have 'left Earth', no longer appearing in temples and before their 'subject' humans, the gawds didn't give-up control of Earth. Rather, as Bramley suggests, they emplaced select groups of humans, through various "secret societies" (and likely some selective breeding~genetic enhancement programs) to have major control of human events in form of 'warden' like status. Things would look to be solely in Human hands, yet behind the scenes and operating through their human surrogate "wardens/chosen ones" the 'naki would continue to macro-manage Human destiny while skimming off the productive top those items/goods they needed to sustain themselves and their agendas while basing elsewhere in this Solar System.

While Bramley develops and detailed case for this control mechanism and the covert operations of the 'naki over the past four millennium, he tends to be a bit vague as to what their ultimate material objective might be, though he hints at a rather negative, for humans, spiritual objective.
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About the Book

All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self-evident.
—Arthur Schopenhauer
Human beings appear to be a slave race languishing on an isolated planet in a small galaxy. As such, the human race was once a source of labor for an extraterrestrial civilization and still remains a possession today. To keep control over its possession and to maintain Earth as something of a prison, that other civilization has bred never-ending conflict between human beings, has promoted human spiritual decay, and has erected on Earth conditions of unremitting physical hardship. The situation has existed for thousands of years and it continues today. Furthermore, it is conceivable that the alleged ownership of Earth may have changed hands over the millennia, in the same way that ownership of a corporation can pass among different owners without the public being aware of it.
—William Bramley, The Gods of Eden
The time has come to accept at face value that we are not the pinnacle of civilization, that we are only now emerging from the cradle of knowledge, and that we need to face the facts of our genetically created origins. The most incredible part of it all is that God had nothing to do with it, but the many gods of our distant past were the true masterminds and manipulators of our misery here on Earth. We must also come to terms with the fact that there are no “aliens” involved in this great new truth we must face. WE ARE THE ALIENS.
—Michael Tellinger, Slave Species of the Gods
Adam = Alien is a groundbreaking book, providing evidence of our extraterrestrial origins. In the vein of Erich Von Däniken, Lloyd Pye, and Zecharia Sitchin, it explores human origin, UFOs, pyramids, religion, science, and our culture’s and government’s suppression of its proof. It is written by a former skeptic whose research has concluded that most of what he has learned regarding the subject matter above was completely wrong, that the powerful institutions that control our education have woven for us a fairy-tale myth to protect their interests—and that has been recapitulated and regurgitated over the past two thousand years. This book is a wakeup call to you—the open-minded, inquisitive thinker. It provides for you documentary and photographic evidence that proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that extraterrestrials have existed here on earth and have intervened for the past 445,000 years in the human experience.
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An assortment of links related to this topic, some tangential, some more direct;
American Antigravity
http://www.americanantigravity.com/
Michael Tellinger
http://www.michaeltellinger.com/
Intelligent Intervention
http://www.intelligentintervention.com/index.php
Adam the Missing Link
http://www.adamthemissinglink.com/
Atlantis, Flem-Ath
http://www.flem-ath.com/
Archeology Answers-(ancient mysteries)
http://www.beforeus.com/
Lloyd Pye - Intervention Theory
http://lloydpye.com/
The Starchild Project
http://www.starchildproject.com/
Moon with a View - Iapetus
http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm
Oh My God! They Killed SOHO!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/oh_my_god.htm
Jason Martell's X-Facts
http://xfacts.com/
Zecharia Sitchin - Official Website
http://www.sitchin.com/
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III.) "... I will make a worker, an Adamu, ..."

Per Sumerian sources and King Lists, Sitchin suggests that it was about 300,000 years ago, after about 100,000 years (+/-) that the Anunnaki assigned the tasks of mining gold out of the ground decided the work was too difficult and backbreaking to endure, and went on strike. Rather than bring in strikebreakers from the Homeworld of Nibiru, or increase the 'robotics' of such an undertaking, or 'killing the mutinous workers' which was EnLil's knee-jerk suggestion; EnKi proposed to relieve the toil and burden of his fellow 'naki working in the mines by producing a 'worker species' thru genetic manipulation of an indigenous species of Earthly homonids. This would be done thru manipulation of that hominids DNA combined with some infusion(gene-splicing) of Anunnaki DNA to produce a worker species intelligent enough to labor for the 'Gawds', but hopefully, per Enlil and others concerns, not quite so capable of supplanting the Anunnaki in their dominance over Earth.

While the exact timeline needed to perfect this worker species; Adamu - to be known as Cro-Magnon Man or Homo Sapiens Sapiens (we Humans), isn't clear, it appears some experimentations and adjustments were needed before the final acceptable and self-replicating version was available. Initially meant to work the mines, versatility of the Adamu was such that they were soon employed in the gardens and cities of the Earthly Anunnaki.

Current Human genetic research, especially in mitochondrial DNA would seem to confirm this approximate time-frame for the appearance of the Human species and as mentioned above, Lloyd Pye's book/DVD provide a better detailed explanation of the genetic(laboratory) process involved as well as detailed evidence of much 'Humans' divergence genetically/biologically from our alleged "ape-man" predecessors. Note that per the Sumerian accounts, it would seem that part of that process included adjusting the DNA of the selected Earthly hominids enough that the resulting hominoids could be cross-breed with the Anunnaki.

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So we have a backdrop of home world(s) destroyed in a supernova event and this colony, and perhaps a few to many more are left in a somewhat stranded state of limited to no communications and their own resources may not sustain them indefinitely. In the case of our Gemingians here at Sol, they have opted to make an evolutionary "jumpstart" of a local species by producing a more advanced and intelligent "Hybrid" specie which can be both a "worker" species and also foundation for future development .... say civilization and eventual industrial~technology development.

But first, that viable hybrid species of sentients. Once an initial version is developed, one my want to start working various strains or breeds, in some cases variants, thought more suitable to particular environments, or tasks. As any knowledgeable in husbandry could appreciate, the more breeds or variations of a species, the better equip they are for surviving assorted environment hazards due to their genetic variations. We now have the process started for introducing assorted races and ethnics into our human worker species.

As we spread these various breeds, races, ethnics about the planet surface, it might help to be able to monitor and adjust their development and this could mean direct physical contacts, overt or covert (?). I'll inject some more detail of this soon, working this in bits and pieces here ...
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Are WE the aliens and will extraterrestrials discover US? These scientists think so

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The scientists looked at data from the Kepler and Hubble space telescopes to estimate Earth’s position on the timeline of habitable world evolution.
Although star formation has slowed down across the universe, and the amount of gas needed to form new stars in our galaxy the Milky Way is depleted, there is ample left out there.
The two calculated only 8% of potentially life-bearing worlds had formed at the same time or before Earth, meaning there is scope for the other 92% to develop.
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I) "Captured Nemesis World" ... wreaks havoc upon the planets and other bodies of the Solar System. There are a number of planet, planetoid, asteroid, comet, etc. "anomalies" in the Solar System highly suggestive of events from either several sources, or a single source, as the cause of such. Conventional Science/Astronomy leans towards the 'several sources' scenarios while Sitchin suggests a more likely, "Occam's Razor" approach, single source in form of a Nemesis planet he believes the earliest texts label "Nibiru".

General theory regarding formation of the Solar System is that the Sun, planets, etc. coalesced out of a swirling cloud of post-nova debris, "planetary nebula", about 5-4.5 Billion years ago. When viewed from the perspective of the 'North Celestial Pole", i.e. the direction of the star we call Polaris, the Solar System has main bodies that rotate upon internal axis in a counter-clockwise direction and revolve in approximately circular orbits also in counter-clockwise direction about the central mass/gravitational object star we call the Sun. In theory everything moving in our solar system that originated here should have this "counter-clockwise" orientation to both spin and orbital direction, with clean geometry of nearly perpendicular spin axis, circular orbits, and all with no inclination to the angular momentum ecliptic of motion.

However, we find the current lay of the Solar System displays numerous aberrations/anomalies to the this ideal and theoretical pattern.

a.) Venus spins upon it's axis in "clockwise" direction, counter to baseline angular momentum of the Solar System.

b.) Earth alone has two forms of 'crustal layer' generating "plate tectonics" that results in a high level of 'earthquakes', volcanoes, and other internal planetary churnings; plus a near planetary-sized companion - producing what could be argued is double-planet orbital system.

c.) an Asteroid Belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter where some calculations suggest another planet should exist. Hence either such a planet never formed or was 'destroyed' sometime in the early history of the Solar System.

d.) several satellites/'moons' of the planets orbit in clockwise paths that are counter to the prevailing direction of solar system angular momentum.

e.) All planets display some degree of tilt of their rotation axis of self-spin suggestive of a form of disruption to their own ideal angular momentum profiles. Uranus is the most dramatic with it's south polar axis pointing nearly direct to the Sun and that planet rolling it's equatorial line upon the plan of it's orbital path.

f.) All planets vary to some degree from the ideal of near circular orbits with Pluto having the greatest known elliptical (oval shaped) orbital path.

g.) All planets vary from the ideal of being upon the main Solar System ecliptic plane of orbital motion (angular momentum) with some degree of inclination to that plane. Pluto again wins honors of the greatest deviation with an inclination of @17 degrees.

h.) Many of the asteroids/comets/meteors share some to all of these anomalies of movement regarding spin/tilt, orbital direction (clockwise or counter-),orbital shape (highly elliptic~'oval'), and orbital inclination.

Again, as mentioned above, Conventional Science/Astronomy has lent towards separate causes and explanations for each example of the above whereas Sitchin, via his interpretations of the Sumerian "Enuma Elish" and other earliest writings, suggests that most to all have resulted from a single source event; the 'capture' of a wandering planet like object that the Sumerians referred to as "Nibiru".

"Nibiru" was supposedly 'captured' as it wandered close to the Solar System about 4 Billion years ago and it's many interactions with the Solar System's planets produced most of the above listed anomalies either directly or as 'aftershocks'. Nibiru originally had an orbital path that was opposite the angular momentum of the Solar System, i.e. 'clockwise' and may have had some degree of inclination. Encounters with the various planets during various orbits likely produced most of the anomalies listed above and key for consideration here is it's encounter with the proto-Earth and that aftermath.

Sitchin suggests that originally Earth was a planet of about twice it's current diameter (more than double in size and mass) and in an orbital path where the Asteroid Belt is located, the Sumerians called it Tiamat. It was two or more close encounters with Nibiru, along with collisions of each others satellites/moons that resulted in Tiamat being broken in half, part becoming the Asteroid Belt, the other half reforming into circular planet the Sumerians called KI (which translates as "cleaved, as in two parts") and we know as Earth. These close encounters and collisions also sent Ki/Earth to a new orbital path (it's current one), locked Kingu/Moon it a joint orbital dance with Ki/Earth, and produced debris on varied and tangential orbits of assorted asteroids and comets.

Nibiru would seem to have gone through a series of adjustments to it's orbital track, varied ellipses, and orbital inclination as result of all these close encounters and possible collisions with the planets of the Solar System and best clues to date that Sitchin has found and presented suggests that Nibiru's orbit is likely about 30 degrees inclined to the 'South' hemisphere of the Solar System and is highly elliptic with a period of about 3,600 (Earth) years, with perigee (closest point to the Sun) and crossing of the ecliptic somewhere in the region of the Asteroid Belt. Per Sitchin's chronologies, last closest approach/transit of Nibiru would have been about 250BC, leaving it only a few hundred years into it's inbound leg towards the Sun.

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^ One result of those plate tectonics is the "gaps" between them and what they result in ...
The 40,000-Mile Volcano
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...The cause, she proposed, is Earth’s slightly elliptical orbit around the sun. That changes the strength of the sun’s gravitational pull on Earth during the year and, as a result, the magnitude of the tides that squeeze the planet. She said the eruptions coincided with the annual letup of the squeeze. More boldly, Dr. Tolstoy suggested that such mechanisms might help explain how the planet’s regular ice ages end so abruptly — long a mystery.
Ocean levels fall sharply in such bitterly cold periods as water is tied up in massive continental ice sheets. In a paper, she proposed that the reduced pressure on the ridges might let them erupt far more frequently. As a result, more carbon dioxide would spew into the ocean and, eventually, into the atmosphere, trapping more heat and warming the planet.
In short, according to this hypothesis, the ice sheets would eventually grow large enough to initiate their own destruction, refilling the oceans. It was a radical idea that has stirred debate.
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Nibiru?

New evidence suggests a ninth planet lurking at the edge of the solar system

Astronomers at the California Institute of Technology announced Wednesday that they have found new evidence of a giant icy planet lurking in the darkness of our solar system far beyond the orbit of Pluto. They are calling it "Planet Nine."
Their paper, published in the Astronomical Journal, describes the planet as about five to 10 times as massive as the Earth. But the authors, astronomers Michael Brown and Konstantin Batygin, have not observed the planet directly.
Instead, they have inferred its existence from the motion of recently discovered dwarf planets and other small objects in the outer solar system. Those smaller bodies have orbits that appear to be influenced by the gravity of a hidden planet – a "massive perturber." The astronomers suggest it might have been flung into deep space long ago by the gravitational force of Jupiter or Saturn.
Telescopes on at least two continents are searching for the object, which on average is 20 times farther away than the eighth planet, Neptune. If "Planet Nine" exists, it's big. Its estimated mass would make it about two to four times the diameter of the Earth, distinguishing it as the fifth-largest planet after Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. But at such extreme distances, it would reflect so little sunlight that it could evade even the most powerful telescopes.
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Planet Nine's profile fleshed out

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Using their planet evolution model, they calculated how parameters like the planetary radius or the brightness evolved over time since the Solar System formed 4.6 billion years ago.
Their results suggest that for a planet 10 times more massive than Earth (the estimate obtained by Brown and Batygin), it would have a diameter 7.5 times bigger than our planet's. They also estimate that its temperature would be an icy -226C (-375F).
"With our study, candidate Planet Nine is now more than a simple point mass, it takes shape - having physical properties," said Prof Mordasini.
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The supernova event produced the pulsar Geminga;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geminga
Which until recently was thought to be the cause of the Local Bubble;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble

Some earlier background material;
A Stone Age Supernova May Have Breathed Fire
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/02/25/us...thed-fire.html
and ...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread992870/pg1
More and recent developments;
Exploding stars left recent, radioactive mark on Earth

Two new studies confirm that multiple exploding stars, called supernovae, have showered the Earth with radiation within the last few million years.
One study reports traces of radioactive iron-60, a strong indicator of supernova debris, found buried in the sea floor right across the globe.
A second paper models which specific supernovae are most likely to have splattered this isotope across our historic, galactic neighbourhood.
Both appear in the journal Nature.
The periods of bombardment highlighted by the two teams do not coincide with any mass extinction events - and indeed, the predicted locations of the culprit supernovae are not quite close enough to unleash that level of destruction.
But the blasts may nonetheless have affected the Earth's climate and thus, the evolution of life.
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His team has spent years studying the "local bubble": a ballooning region of hot gas, 600 light-years across, that surrounds the Solar System and dominates our stellar neighbourhood.
It was formed, Prof Breitschwerdt and his colleagues have found, by upwards of a dozen supernovae all blowing up within a nearby, moving clump of stars. Their new paper pinpoints those explosions.
"We now can make a table of the stars - what mass they had, when they exploded, and where they were," he told the BBC News website.
Specifically, his team calculated how much iron-60 those supernovae would have sprayed into space - and how much the Earth could have swept up, based on the Solar System's path as it orbits around the Milky Way.
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Even the teams' predicted distances match: the simulations and the ocean-floor data both place the recent explosions 300 light-years away, or less.
The timing of the supernovae also has some fascinating implications: "It's an interesting coincidence that they correspond with when the Earth cooled and moved from the Pliocene into the Pleistocene period," Dr Wallner adds, referring to the epoch of regular ice ages that took hold some 2.5 million years ago.
The idea that nearby stellar explosions could have triggered key transitions in our planet's natural history is not a new one. But it has found little scientific support over the years.
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Assuming some of the Gemengians/Anunnaki may have believed in some version(s) of reincarnation, then the lost of a Home World or Few, could mean Billions to tens of billions with lost biosphere~biological linkage to soul re-incarnation cycles.

Hence something like a gene-splicing of inter-stellar species might hold merit. Tweaking Terrestrial homind genetic stock to cross-bred with Gemingian/Anunnaki stock and produce a hybrid of sorts could provide the 'host bodies' needed by some of the destroyed Home World(s) to pick back up and continue on ... ! (Given biological linkages to Spiritual components.)

So for future reference, the Reincarnation Thread;
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=169734
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More for reference, this might be "Nibiru" ....
Where Did Planet Nine Come From?

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If Planet 9 exists, it’s been through one hell of an ordeal. That’s the takeaway from a series of new studies that ask how in the name of Uranus a planet could have gotten itself into such a whacked-out orbit. This in turn might help explain the unlikely orbits of half a dozen Kuiper Belt objects.

Planet 9 is a hypothetical world roughly the mass of Neptune that orbits our Sun in a giant ellipse, at a distance of 40 to over 100 billion miles. Although astronomers have proposed hidden ninth planets for years, this latest version—the brainchild of Caltech’s Mike Brown and Konstantin Batygin—has gained quite a bit of traction since it was announced in January. The potential planet is so compelling that many astronomers have penned follow-up papers describing how we might find it and what it could look like.

Almost as interesting as Planet 9's present location is how this behemoth wound up cooling its heels ten times further from the Sun than Pluto. Several new modeling efforts led by researchers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics are now attempting to answer that question.

There are essentially three competing hypotheses. The most likely, proposed by astronomers Scott Kenyon and Benjamin Bromley, posits that Planet 9 is a gas giant that formed in the inner solar solar system before straying too close to Jupiter and getting itself punted out.

“The odds that other gas giants were formed in the early solar system are very good,” Kenyon told Gizmodo, adding that the few first million years of our Sun’s life were a chaotic time, with young gas giants sucking up matter and crashing into each other all willy-nilly. “You could have made ten and Jupiter could have eaten a few.”

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Next, the two men proposed an even stranger possibility: maybe Planet 9 formed in place. In this scenario, Planet 9 is a giant snowball rather than a gas giant, that packed itself up in a very slow and very cold version of the accretionary process that formed the Earth.

“Our idea is that as the gaseous disk is going away, it develops a hole, which gets bigger and bigger until the disk is gone,” Kenyon said. “As this hole is getting bigger, material outside the hole sweeps up solid particles like a snowplow, and deposits them at a large distance.” Over the course of hundreds of millions of years, all of those plowed up ice shavings snowballed into one another, resulting in a jawbreaker about twice the size of the Earth.
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The final scenario sounds like a plot line from a B-list scifi movie, and it seems to be comparably unlikely. Planet 9 could be an extraterrestrial invader. “Planet 9 may be an exoplanet in our own solar system,” said Gongjie Li, another astronomer at Harvard’s Center for Astrophysics whose recent modeling paper explores this very possibility, among others.

Astronomers believe our star formed as part of a densely packed cluster that dissipated after about 100 million years. In the early days of the solar system, close encounters with neighboring stars would have been much more common. It’s possible—albeit unlikely—that the outer edges of our solar system once exchanged material, including planets, with another.
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