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Question to military minds about Hamas tunnels

As we know, Hamas is a terror group, no questions asked there. That said, this thread is about Hamas tunnels that Israel claims is used to kill civilians in this recent conflict.

From what I have heard on media reports and from what I have seen in videos, the Hamas tunnels have been used to attack Israeli military targets, like in the following case,



According to CNN, Hamas and Israel say the above was a deadly attack on Israeli forces in broad day light. Do folks think this is legit combat, what is the term?

Where are the majority of theses tunnels leading to and most important, have any Hamas militants actually made it into Israel to attack a civilian in this recent conflict? Does anyone have information about Hamas tunnel attacks on civilians, as opposed to what we see above?
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As we know, Hamas is a terror group, no questions asked there. That said, this thread is about Hamas tunnels that Israel claims is used to kill civilians in this recent conflict.

From what I have heard on media reports and from what I have seen in videos, the Hamas tunnels have been used to attack Israeli military targets, like in the following case,



According to CNN, Hamas and Israel say the above was a deadly attack on Israeli forces in broad day light. Do folks think this is legit combat, what is the term?

Where are the majority of theses tunnels leading to and most important, have any Hamas militants actually made it into Israel to attack a civilian in this recent conflict? Does anyone have information about Hamas tunnel attacks on civilians, as opposed to what we see above?
As Hamas is a terrorist organization and not a military one, the attacks are not legitimate. Hamas is an organization of criminals looking for legitimacy. To grant them legitimacy would be a grave mistake.

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Hamas tunnels had been dug so that they would end inside or close to Israeli towns.
The fact that it was used only to attack soldiers is because the IDF reacted quickly and dispatched forces to every known and possible exit- so that the soldiers would protect the civilians, as military organizations are supposed to do and not use the civilian to protect the militants like some other military organizations do.
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As we know, Hamas is a terror group, no questions asked there. That said, this thread is about Hamas tunnels that Israel claims is used to kill civilians in this recent conflict.

From what I have heard on media reports and from what I have seen in videos, the Hamas tunnels have been used to attack Israeli military targets, like in the following case,



According to CNN, Hamas and Israel say the above was a deadly attack on Israeli forces in broad day light. Do folks think this is legit combat, what is the term?

Where are the majority of theses tunnels leading to and most important, have any Hamas militants actually made it into Israel to attack a civilian in this recent conflict? Does anyone have information about Hamas tunnel attacks on civilians, as opposed to what we see above?
Strictly speaking a tunnel is a legitimate method for conveying a weapon of war. The attack was military.

The tunnels are an incredible waste of manpower, and will no doubt cost Hamas their military credos with their striker cells.

Gaza is a coastal alluvial plain. The tunnels are found by excavators. Come November, Israel can flood the pits. Then the tunnels undermine the buildings they were dug from by hydrostatic pressure.
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Strictly speaking a tunnel is a legitimate method for conveying a weapon of war. The attack was military.
I'm still trying to figure out whether you just have no idea what you're talking about- in which case I have to wonder why you insist talking about things you understand nothing about, or you're just trolling...
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I'm still trying to figure out whether you just have no idea what you're talking about- in which case I have to wonder why you insist talking about things you understand nothing about, or you're just trolling...
Give it a rest ,Oded...
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You are seeing things that don't exist. I know a lot about Sand hogging.
That answers that.
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Strictly speaking a tunnel is a legitimate method for conveying a weapon of war. The attack was military.
Following your logic, if a mexican drug cartel were to dig a tunnel from one city to another, kill a bunch of mexican soldiers then that would be a legitimate military attack?
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Following your logic, if a mexican drug cartel were to dig a tunnel from one city to another, kill a bunch of mexican soldiers then that would be a legitimate military attack?
Nope. Just another stupid idea , militarily
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Nope. Just another stupid idea , militarily

Anyways, as you were, ranting about water pits and such.
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Would Hamas have the capacity to build a Syrian style tunnel bomb? The one in the video was supposedly 1km long and was packed with 60tons of fertilizer.

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Following your logic, if a mexican drug cartel were to dig a tunnel from one city to another, kill a bunch of mexican soldiers then that would be a legitimate military attack?
A drug cartel would not do that unless there was profit init for them.

Besides which in this war so far, the IDF has killed more civillians than Hamas.

Just curious as a serving IDF soldier, do you feel anything when you see the bodies of dead children after bombing by Israeli forces. A UN school full of kids after being told 17 times by the UN was still bombed for gods sake.
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Just curious as a serving IDF soldier, do you feel anything when you see the bodies of dead children after bombing by Israeli forces. A UN school full of kids after being told 17 times by the UN was still bombed for gods sake.
Just curious as a British citizen, do you feel anything when you spread lies and propaganda?
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Just curious as a British citizen, do you feel anything when you spread lies and propaganda?
Which specific lies and propaganda did he spread? He asked a question about how someone felt about provable events. Which lies were in that post?
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Just curious as a British citizen, do you feel anything when you spread lies and propaganda?
Don't call me a liar,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28559537

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...9-9638765.html

http://www.smh.com.au/world/after-a-...731-zyr1v.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...637_story.html



and it's happened again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28628682

So I ask again, how do you feel about this
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