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U.N. find 20 rockets in Gaza school

"Some 20 rockets were found Wednesday in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, the organization confirmed Thursday."


http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-miss...chool-in-gaza/
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All too typical of the duplicity practiced too often by the "U.N."!
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Not only that, but the U.N had refused to publish the photos of the rockets (I guess they were concerned about OPSEC) AND had returned the rockets to Hamas.

http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/280357


Yep, the U.N ladies and gentlemen...the U.N....
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Not only that, but the U.N had refused to publish the photos of the rockets (I guess they were concerned about OPSEC) AND had returned the rockets to Hamas.

http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/280357


Yep, the U.N ladies and gentlemen...the U.N....
This is both nauseating and unsurprising at the same time.
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Not only that, but the U.N had refused to publish the photos of the rockets (I guess they were concerned about OPSEC) AND had returned the rockets to Hamas.

http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/280357


Yep, the U.N ladies and gentlemen...the U.N....
Maybe a better link?

If the UN are indeed supporting Hamas in such a manner, why should Israel place her safety in the hands of any outsider?
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Maybe a better link?
I'm sorry, but as I noted in another thread- some news pieces don't correspond well with foreign media bias and therefore aren't picked up, on other occasions it simply takes more time to be translated into English and when I post new information it's just too primary.

Seeing that there's been a while since and that I wasn't able to find an English sources on the matter...
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Also depends on who exactly is representing "the UN" in this case. We've seen cases before where the people that the UN sends in are only protected by "international law" which turns out not to be a match for locally recruited gunmen.
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Maybe a better link?

If the UN are indeed supporting Hamas in such a manner, why should Israel place her safety in the hands of any outsider?
Here you are:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/un-agen...s-israel-says/
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"Some 20 rockets were found Wednesday in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, the organization confirmed Thursday."


http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-miss...chool-in-gaza/
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And to think that a big-league terror organization would, I dunno, act like a Terror Organization.....completely surprising I tell you, completely surprising
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We're talking about a civilian UN agency here, the UNRWA, not about some UN military force under a peace-keeping or peace-enforcing mandate, either an effective or an ineffective one.

Expecting these civilians to hand over functioning ordnance to some other authority but the local one in control of the area is absurd; expecting these civilians to be able to deactivate live ordnance before handing it over is unrealistic; the final alternative is that these civilians could haul the stuff in some hole in the desert to blow it off harmlessly - at a time when there are Israeli drones overhead, likely to take an interest in such movements.

Just think about the practical ways in which any of these alternatives could be carried out by these untrained civilians.

The UN and its agencies can be criticized for a very long list of shortcomings; the very existence of the UNRWA could be argued against. But in this specific instance they did exactly the one possible thing.
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We're talking about a civilian UN agency here, the UNRWA, not about some UN military force under a peace-keeping or peace-enforcing mandate, either an effective or an ineffective one....

.....The UN and its agencies can be criticized for a very long list of shortcomings; the very existence of the UNRWA could be argued against. But in this specific instance they did exactly the one possible thing.
Well, the folks on the scene had no choice. But the UN gets the criticism for putting them there in the first place. The UN may be Useless Nitwits from my perspective, but to the Palestinians they are useful idiots.
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Well, the folks on the scene had no choice. But the UN gets the criticism for putting them there in the first place.
Which links with the position, that could be reasonably argued for, that the UNRWA shouldn't exist, as I mentioned.

The UN have a worldwide agency whose purpose is to assist all refugees, the UNHCR. Then it has a temporary agency, established in 1949, whose sole purpose is to aid Palestinian refugees only.

And it's still around.

Under the UNRWA's own rules, a baby born in Jordan today, whose father was born in Jordan, and whose grandfather was born in Jordan, and whose grand-grand-father was born in some place that is now Israel since 1949 - wait for it - is a refugee, entitled to the UNRWA's help.
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For the 2 time - Rockets found in UN school

' "For the second time in less than a week, rockets have been found in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, the body said" '

' Israeli officials reacted furious to the discovery. “How many more schools will have to be abused by Hamas missile squads before the international community will intervene,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel. “How many times can it turn its head the other way and pretend that it just doesn’t see?” '


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How many vacant schools are there? My guess is they are all being used to store rockets and munitions. Maybe Israel should blow them up?

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