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Boko Haram

Was trying to educate myself on more of the background to Boko Haram or Jama’atul Alhul Sunnah Lidda’wati wal Jihad.and found these. Have not read all of them so cannot vouch for all of it but some look quite informative. Hope it is useful to anyone whois interested.

"Boko Haram’s origins lie in a group of radical Islamist youth who worshipped at the Alhaji
Muhammadu Ndimi Mosque in Maiduguri a decade ago. In 2002, an offshoot of this youth
group (not yet known as Boko Haram) declared the city and the Islamic establishment to
be intolerably corrupt and irredeemable."

http://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/SR308.pdf

http://ro.ecu.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent...19&context=act

http://www.ajol.info/index.php/smsaj...ad/83722/73739

http://journals.sub.uni-hamburg.de/g...ticle/view/330

http://africa.harvard.edu/apj/boko-h...-end-in-sight/


http://www.scribd.com/doc/74286783/H...eo8gt9mkb9t5fj

http://homeland.house.gov/sites/home...ram-Report.pdf
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And thus, I suppose, this endeared them to life of banditry, thuggery, and taking hostages and for sale no less. Perfect. Sounds like a death warrant signature to me. Lets oblige them post haste. Sayeret Matkal, Delta, SEALS, SAS, Apaches, whoever.
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And thus, I suppose, this endeared them to life of banditry, thuggery, and taking hostages and for sale no less. Perfect. Sounds like a death warrant signature to me. Lets oblige them post haste. Sayeret Matkal, Delta, SEALS, SAS, Apaches, whoever.
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When he is right he is right. Great way, imo, to make friends and influence people. Our footprint in Africa is to small today but growing. Getting rid of the fear from the good people of Africa well go a long way in the future. WE did it, not the Chinese or the Russians but the West.
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Was reading about them in today's Telegraph. Not pleasant people. Usual mix of bandits and psychopaths at the top with mindless foot soldiers, often children, following them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...xt-Rwanda.html
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Nigeria is a perfect breeding ground for groups like this as the political leadership is routinely listed near the top in those world corruption lists that show up every year. Hearing the extremists message, the locals first inclination is yell the Nigerian equivalent of "hell yeah!, let's get rid of all those thieving " It is only later that they learn the true cost of dealing with zealots like Boko Haram.
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France is to host a security summit on the threat from Boko Haram Islamists, after they abducted more than 200 schoolgirls in Nigeria in April.

Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan and other West African leaders will attend the talks in Paris.

On Friday Mr Jonathan was due to visit the north-eastern town of Chibok, where the girls were seized, but called it off for for security reasons.

He has ruled out negotiations over their possible release, reports say.

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"A British-born man suspected of masterminding Boko Haram bomb attacks in Nigeria that left around 100 people dead became radicalised during his years at a Welsh university, it has been claimed."

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"Villagers in an area of Nigeria where Boko Haram operates have killed and detained scores of fighters who were suspected of planning a fresh attack, the residents and a security official said."


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"Asabe Kwambura is getting tired of waiting. Sitting under a young mango tree alongside the charred remains of her school, the headteacher looks around nervously. It's not safe to be out here in one of the most dangerous parts of north-eastern Nigeria, but the government has promised to send a team to investigate the kidnapping of more than 200 pupils from her school and she wants to greet them in person."

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And thus, I suppose, this endeared them to life of banditry, thuggery, and taking hostages and for sale no less. Perfect. Sounds like a death warrant signature to me. Lets oblige them post haste. Sayeret Matkal, Delta, SEALS, SAS, Apaches, whoever.
I'm not much of a psychic, but I can easily see what this will turn out like. More prolonged COIN, more nation building for people that aren't a nation and an overwhelming media campaign that the U.S got involved because Nigeria has oil and that the whole kidnapping incident was actually fabricated intelligence reports...
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I'm not much of a psychic, but I can easily see what this will turn out like. More prolonged COIN, more nation building for people that aren't a nation and an overwhelming media campaign that the U.S got involved because Nigeria has oil and that the whole kidnapping incident was actually fabricated intelligence reports...
In what context?
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In what context?
An American lead intervention in the region.

This recent incident is a great sound bite (eye bite? whatever...) but its not like its out of the blue nor is it even on the extreme range of tragic events in the context of Africa.
Its GREAT for "hashtags" and "likes", which in a way is "beneficial" because it brings public opinion to the matter, but then again its also not at all different then the Kony 2012 fiasco. The most viral video in the history of the internet (which is saying a lot given it was the length of a feature movie and on a political topic) brought people that don't even know Uganda is a country to the streets as if their own children were kidnapped to become child soldiers.
And what now? Forget now, 2 years later in a world that has an all encompassing ADHD, what happened months after? not a thing.

Even if you escalate, even if you send a DEVGRU team or whatever on a daring and successful rescue mission the likes of which Africa hadn't seen since Operation Thunderbolt, you aren't solving a thing.
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Fair point on the lack of knowledge and awareness of most as well as the short term nature of the media and people for that. It is a slippery slope but worth remembering that the States already has a significant presence in Africa. Something that is not discussed much.

Although I think the people who are directly affected would challenge the view that nothing changes. Lets see what comes from the French conference. The Nigerian military will probably benefit from a rapid expansion of counter-insurgency training out of all of this.
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