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45th Regiment, New York Militia War of 1812

Anyone know where I can find information about the 45th Regiment (Knickerbackers), New York Militia, who served in the War of 1812. I'm asking because my gggggg-uncle, Sgt. George Hakes, served in the unit and I can't find anything on them.
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I'm intrigued, why were they called the "Knickerbackers" ?

Also a bump more or less - this doesn't look like a question the ACG would leave unanswered
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I'm intrigued, why were they called the "Knickerbackers" ?

Also a bump more or less - this doesn't look like a question the ACG would leave unanswered
Apparently, the Regiment was called Knickerbocker's Regiment, after its commanding officer, Lt. Col. William Knickerbocker.

http://books.google.com/books?id=kmo...bocker&f=false

http://hamilton.nygenweb.net/militar...aimsHamil.html

I didn't have a lot of luck searching for 45th New York Militia on the internet, as apparently the 45th New York Volunteers of the Civil War seems to dominate more search results. I didn't have any luck finding it mentioned in any of the orders of battles for engagements that I know the New York Militia fought in.

To the OP, you might have better luck asking a New York State archives for more information.
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OP, check "The American State Papers" site, and look under the "Military" section. Not sure but there's a lot of information there.
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All I could Find.

"At least two other local men in the Knickerbocker Regiment, the 45th NYS Militia, were Isaac Tallmadge, who was a lieutenant, and Alexander Bryan, who was a captain."

"Hiscock, William (1812 claim, Hamilton Co.) (Pvt. 45th Reg't (Knickerbocker's) NY Militia)"

"JOHN RATHBUN (1783-1859) son of Roger Samuel Thomas John'). Served as a
Sgt. in Col. Peter Vosburg's 9th NY Regt.; under Capt. James Warren in Lt.Col. Green's Regt. And with Capt. Edward Whitford in Col. William Knockerbocker's 45 NY Militia."



http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=G...page&q&f=false

http://archive.org/stream/soldiersof...0cust_djvu.txt

http://mymilitaryhistory.blogspot.co...y-rangers.html

http://www.archives.gov/research/gui...94.html#94.2.4

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Somewhere in the mess that are my files I have a listing of NY militia regiments and to which brigade and division they belonged, but cannot find it after a quick search (no no that is the Revolutionary war list!! argh.).

The militia at this time included all males of military age 18-45. Each state divided up its population and assigned men to a particular regiment based on their geographic location, typically a township might support a battalion or regiment. To call up an entire regiment would mean to call up the entire able bodied male population of a community. As this was not favorable for obvious reasons, men were usually divided into classes (usually 8) based on age marital status and the such. As a result of the Militia Act of 1792, the President was given powers to call up the militia when necessary, and so states were assigned quotas. In the case of 1812, 100,000 militia were to be called out if needed, and New York's quota came to 10,500. So the NY Militia contingent was divided into twenty-two regiments (20 line, 1 rifle, and 1 light infantry). Some men were taken from every regiment (sometimes volunteers otherwise drafted) and provisional units created and these were usually designated "detached" or "detailed" militia as they were "detached" or "detailed" to federal service. So a regiment, say the 9th Detached Regiment was formed out a brigade or two (depending) of the existing "organized" militia, but did not actually serve unless called out. In the case of Peter Vosburgh's Regiment, the 9th Regiment of New York Detached Militia was formed from the two brigades in Washington (or Essex, I forget which) County. In August of 1812, it was called to duty as part of Micah Pettit's Third Brigade of Detached Militia and served at Plattsburg.

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Listing of NY Militia Regiments in War of 1812?

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Your information on the War of !812 is very helpful. I would be very interested in a list of NY Militia regiments - there are records on Fold3.com and Ancestry.com which list the soldier's name and the name of his regiment, but not where the regiment came from. Information from NARA, NY State Archives, & Google search is very spotty. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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