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Everyday Russian language paradoxes or how to drive foreigners crazy
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Actually this one:
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Сделай огонь тише (Make the fire quieter)
is a fail, because the word "тихий" has plenty of meanings other than "quiet" including "weak" and "slow"
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is a fail, because the word "тихий" has plenty of meanings other than "quiet" including "weak" and "slow"
There is a lot of fail in that blog post. Did she seriously say calling a fast food restaurant a restaurant is wrong? How is that even an oxymoron? How would that confuse anyone?
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Sorry if this is a silly question, but how difficult you would say Russian grammar is? As difficult as English grammar, as French grammar, as German grammar?

Also, how long does it take for foreigners to learn a basic level Russian that would allow them to read a newspaper for example (1 year, 2 years)?

As a side note, looking over some Russian texts I noticed some of the words are exactly as Romanian words, the only difference being that they are written in Cyrillic.
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Sorry if this is a silly question, but how difficult you would say Russian grammar is? As difficult as English grammar, as French grammar, as German grammar?
This sort of question always ends up relating back to which language the prospective learner is starting from. Russian is a highly inflected language with numerous case endings multiplied by the presence of grammatical genders. As such, it poses difficulties for those language learners whose native language lacks grammatical gender (such as Hungarians and English) or those whose native language lacks a developed system of case endings for nouns and adjectives (again, such as English). Regarding European languages, in general, fellow Slavs would find Russian easiest (except for Poles, who would likely refuse to learn it). Next would likely be those speakers whose native language is highly inflected, which would include Romanians, Latvians, Lithuanians. Next would come speakers of the other Indo-European languages - Germanic and Latin. Lastly, would probably be those speakers whose native language is agglutinative, that is, Hungarians, Finns, and Estonians.

As for being a Romanian in particular, and whether French, English, or German grammar would be more difficult, this is difficult to answer, since I am not a Romanian. However, it is possible to suggest the following:
a) The most difficult part of Russian grammar - the noun and adjective case-declensions and agreement would be a concept a Romanian speaker would understand quite well (although learning the various forms would still be problematic).
b) The absence of actual articles in Russian would also make Russian easy, easier say than German with its plethora of der, die, das, den, dem, des forms.
c) Vocabulary-wise, there are a large number of Slavic-derived words in Romanian due to the historical proximity of various Slavic nations, just as there are a large number of Latin-derived words due to historical-lexical reasons.

In short, Russian can be a very difficult language for any non-Slavic European language learner, but of all non-Slavic European language learners, Romanians (along with Latvians and Lithuanians) would probably find it least challenging.
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A very comprehensive and helpful answer! Many thanks Skoblin. I'll have to spread some reputation around and I'll come back to you.
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Great website. Well done. Every language should have one. Spanish was child's play next to Russian. It'll be awhile before I can learn the alphabet. I put in a little time. I don't know if I retained anything but it was fun.
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Why teach them then? Don't understand why you would say it is so bad to say 'blin' either.
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How can you have a list of most common used/must know Russian words and not put давай on it? I know its not easy to translate the usage of it to English, I can't go a day without hearing it at least 631 times.
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How can you have a list of most common used/must know Russian words and not put давай on it? I know its not easy to translate the usage of it to English, I can't go a day without hearing it at least 631 times.
I think "come on" would be the closest translation
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I think "come on" would be the closest translation
How about "go on"?
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How about "go on"?
Well, in some occasions, may be. You know, it's hardly possible to translate one word from one language into another one word on another language with 100% exactness.
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I think "come on" would be the closest translation
But in English nobody says 'come on' while saying good bye. I'm talking about usage more than in the literal sense.
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