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WASHINGTON, January 26 (RIA Novosti) – The United States announced Friday that it is withdrawing from a bilateral working group on civil society issues with Russia, a move that comes amid deteriorating ties between the two countries over human rights.


US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told a news briefing Friday that the move was prompted by what Washington sees as a crackdown by the Russian government on civil society groups, which have been subject to increasingly onerous registration requirements over the past year and are now banned from accepting financing from the United States if they engage in politics.


“The working group was not working,” Nuland said of the panel, which was part of the US-Russian Bilateral Presidential Commission established in 2009 by US President Barack Obama and his then Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, as part of the so-called “reset” effort in US-Russia ties.
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WASHINGTON, January 26 (RIA Novosti) - The United States plans to continue cooperating with Russia in spheres of mutual interest but will also keep voicing its concerns on a number of issues, the US State Department said on Friday.

“We will continue to work with Russia on as many areas as we can where we see interest in cooperation, whether they are bilateral issues, whether they are regional issues, or whether they are global issues,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

“But we will also speak straight when we have disagreements, as we have, whether it was on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia, whether it was on human rights, whether it was on Syria,” she said.
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The United States has delivered the latest setback to Russia-US relations by announcing it will no longer participate in the Russian-American Bilateral Presidential Commission on Civil Society.

*“We regret whenever a bilateral format is canceled without an appropriate substitute," presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov told Interfax.

Moscow did not receive the US announcement through official diplomatic channels, but rather via news agencies.

"[The US announcement] has until now reached us verbally; we have not yet received any written official documents on Washington's decision to withdraw from this format of dialogue with Russia," Konstantin Dolgov, the Foreign Ministry's envoy on human rights, democracy and supremacy of law, told reporters on Friday.

The US decision to quit the Working Group on Civil Society of the Russian-American Bilateral Presidential Commission was announced by Thomas Melia, deputy secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor, in an interview with Interfax.
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America's New Cold War With Russia

With the full support of a feckless policy elite and an uncritical media establishment, Washington is slipping, if not plunging, into a new cold war with Moscow. Relations, already deeply chilled by fundamental disputes over missile defense, the Middle East and Russia's internal politics, have now been further poisoned by two conflicts reminiscent of tit-for-tat policy-making during the previous Cold War.

In December, Congress, in a fit of sanctimonious lawmaking and indifference to larger consequences, passed the Magnitsky Act. In effect a blacklist without due process, it will punish Russian officials (and perhaps their family members) alleged to be guilty of "gross violations of human rights" in their own country. However odious such individuals may be, Russia's political class was bound to resent yet another haughty U.S. intrusion into its political and legal affairs. A no less capricious State Duma quickly responded by banning U.S. adoption of Russian orphans, long a highly sensitive issue, which will go into full effect in 2014. Little opposition was voiced in the U.S. and Russian legislatures to their respective bills.

There was, however, a significant difference. Under President Vladimir Putin's "authoritarian regime," the Russian media were filled with heated controversy over the adoption ban, including denunciations of Putin for signing it. But in the "democratic" U.S. mainstream media, there has been only applause for the Magnitsky Act and President Barack Obama's decision to sign it. Nor is this the first time leading U.S. newspapers and television and radio outlets have been cheerleaders for a new cold war.

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Yeah, so what?
A committee is a life-form with 6 or more legs and no brains, and don't we already have enough bureaucracy in this world?

Besides, if most Russians are as mean and self-centered as most of the Russians that post here, what is the point in talking with them anyway?
Going by what I see here, there was never any point in this in the first place. The name calling is just a small part of it, and the least frustrating.

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The US decision to quit the Working Group on Civil Society of the Russian-American Bilateral Presidential Commission was announced ....
The what ....?

Come on, if you take something with a wonky title like that seriously (provided you have ever even heard of it before) then you need to un-startch your neck, go out somewhere and have some fun somewhere.

(stand by for the tsunami of bilge to prove my point )
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Besides, if most Russians are as mean and self-centered as most of the Russians that post here, what is the point in talking with them anyway?
When you supported the soldier who murdered civilians in Afghanistan, you was at your lowest. Now you made another record in stupidity,chauvinism and racism.
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When you supported the soldier who murdered civilians in Afghanistan, you was at your lowest. Now you made another record in stupidity,chauvinism and racism.
Hey Emtos, are you going to give me a red bean every time I comment here?
I have all the positive rep I need and a friends list that is longer than I know what to do with, so who cares?

Supported? Hell, all I did was celebrate the fact that Americans finally seemed real to the trash we are supposed to be fighting there; speaking their own language.
Ever been there?
Now, if I were like you, I'd go and dig up refs to every Human abuse committed by Soviet Army troops in A-stan during the 1980s. T'would make for an interesting comparison, don't you think?
Good thing I'm not like you, eh?

Yes, you are one of the mean ones, not Diplomatic at all, thanks for proving how pointless the whole thing was.
And, if both of the posters from Russia who are not mean were offended, then don't be like one of those guys. There are a lot of us who know the difference.
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Hey Emtos, are you going to give me a red bean every time I comment here?
I have all the positive rep I need and a friends list that is longer than I know what to do with, so who cares?
Well, the simple fact that you talk about means that you care.


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Supported? Hell, all I did was celebrate the fact that Americans finally seemed real to the trash we are supposed to be fighting there; speaking their own language.
Ever been there?
http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-preside...144822834.html

Well done!

The Hadjis killed 6 of our guys and dozens of their own in 2 weeks of trying, and just one of our guys, working all alone gets 16 and wounds 7 in just one night.
Bravo!

Now that we are talking in a language those people can understand, at last, I think we'll see a break in the cycle, for a while.
We no longer look like weak fools to those savages.
for now...


Your original post. From the link above :

"BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) — President Hamid Karzai said a U.S. service member killed 16 people — nine of them children and three women — in a shooting spree Sunday that he condemned as "an assassination.""

You applauded the murder of civilian children and women. It puts you exactly at the same level that all those Allah-akbars and guys with swastikas. They like the murder of innocents too.


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Now, if I were like you, I'd go and dig up refs to every Human abuse committed by Soviet Army troops in A-stan during the 1980s. T'would make for an interesting comparison, don't you think?
Good thing I'm not like you, eh?
Pathetic attempt to change the subject. But if you want to talk about Soviet and American impact on Afghanistan there is no problem. Some articles from your newspapers.

http://www.thenation.com/article/167...e-afghanistan#

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/wo...anted=all&_r=0



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Yes, you are one of the mean ones, not Diplomatic at all, thanks for proving how pointless the whole thing was.
And, if both of the posters from Russia who are not mean were offended, then don't be like one of those guys. There are a lot of us who know the difference.
Not diplomatic at all. Of course brand most of posters from Russia as mean and self-centered is the height of the diplomacy and good manners.
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I'm so tired of this. I have a feeling that they are more concerned with ***** Riot than with any serious political suppression.
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said that the decision to quit from the US-Russia Presidential Committee’s working group on civil society was America’s own choice, adding Russia was in no position to change it.

Mr. Lavrov said Russia first learnt about America’s decision to withdraw from the working group from a public announcement of the US State Department’s officials.

“We were notified only orally, no written announcement was submitted to us in this respect,” the minister said at a Moscow press conference.
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Clinton Urges Russia to be More ‘Integrated’

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WASHINGTON, January 30 (RIA Novosti) The United States and Europe should work to persuade Russia’s leadership to let their country become more “integrated” with the West despite challenges in relations with Moscow, outgoing US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in an interview published Tuesday.


“It’s going to have to be a mutual effort, Europe and the United States both bilaterally and together, working to try to persuade Russia and particularly Russian leadership that they should become more integrated into and connected with Europe and the West,” Clinton said.
“That’s where the future lies, and we hope that the next few years will be more successful doing that.”


Clinton, 65, said the United States has a “very important bilateral relationship with Russia” that had yielded tangible progress in areas ranging from nuclear disarmament to security in Afghanistan and other areas of mutual interest.
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WASHINGTON, January 30 (RIA Novosti) – Basketball, bone marrow and 250-year-old telescopes: 2012 saw a wave of initiatives strengthening US-Russia ties at a time of escalating tensions between the two countries.

Russian-speaking representatives from organizations across the United States gathered in the US capital Wednesday for the second annual Silver Archer USA awards, presented to Russian-American projects that contribute to the development of bilateral relations.

This year’s event, held at the National Press Club in Washington, included entries from 20 contestants who embarked on business, scientific, cultural and media projects throughout the United State
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What is this stuff:
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Not real sure this belongs here but I figured I would start somewhere. There was a show Drugs inc here in the US and they made several references to this drug from Russia. I won't post the video's of it as it is as vile as vile can be.
I want to know if this is actually an epidemic in Russia or something they are just making another PRODUCTION out of over here.
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