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For all those with a simple desire to learn or know the 'prim's & propa's' of the English language!


Be you as unejumucated & fick as I, simply unsure or unknowing, or even wishing to improve or refine your use of the English language, I think this place might be of great value.

Philip (PhilipLaos) has the creds, the actual experience & is hereby Lord & Master of the Manor All please show at least a reasonable degree of manners & respect in improving your English use & understanding while also recognizing that there is more than one way of the English word & its usage around the world. With each people, region & tradition there comes with them many idiosyncrasies & idiomatic variances in use of the language.

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Pink Floyd need's it. That is a quote, but not mine.
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^ It's embarrassing when a non-native English speaker has to correct a natural-born American's.

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I have massive issues with the apostrophe. As probably does everyone else. I think most of it is caused by the word 'its'.
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I have massive issues with the apostrophe. As probably does everyone else. I think most of it is caused by the word 'its'.
They're perfectly acceptable in the English language. By the way, does Finnish proscribe double-negatives as English does, or are they accepted like in most other tongues?
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I have massive issues with the apostrophe. As probably does everyone else. I think most of it is caused by the word 'its'.
Yes, and you handle it better than most native speakers.

Until the return of corporal punishment for the incorrect use of there/their/they're, your/you're, and to/too/two, this regrettable state of affairs is set to continue.
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Needs.

Or "need". Certainly not "need's"

My view - descriptive rather than proscriptive:

Both 'need' and 'needs' can be used in this and similar cases.

Because, like football teams, governments, etc. you can think of a rock group as a single unit or as individuals.

Single unit: "Pink Floyd is a great band."

Individuals: "Pink Floyd are a great band."

Same with any collection of individuals. e.g.

"This government has failed!" (Thinking of the government as a single entity.)

"This government have failed!" (Thinking of the government more as made of individuals.)
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They're perfectly acceptable in the English language. By the way, does Finnish proscribe double-negatives as English does, or are they accepted like in most other tongues?
I have no idea. I can't even think of a single example...maybe we don't have it

My English grammar is way better than my Finnish.


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I had to google it and only came up with one example that probably only a foreigner would use. So I think the Finnish language is constructed in a way that a double negative is almost impossible to make.
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Mistakes made while typing on a phone should be exempted

Over the years, after my mom passed, I worked very hard on my English. If I wasn't able to perfect my VN, I was certainly going to make the effort on my English. Therefore, I always welcome Phillip's input.

Unless I am typing on this lousy phone which has a mind of it's own.
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