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My feeling is there are lots of Kurds in Turkey and Iran that have NOT been heard of as yet. I would not send any Kurds from Iraq. I wonder why the Pro-Assad forces aren't hitting the rear of the ISIS troops?

My opinion is the Sunni Clans are not willing to fight ISIS. Wasn't it in Afghanistan that the Taliban Chechens had such a fierce reputation and the "friendly" Afghans would rather run from them than fight? Perhaps a similar situation is happening in Iraq?

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Regarding turkey, good luck to the armed Kurds that are sent abroad, somehow I don't think turkey will be welcoming them back with open arms...

Re assad, after all this time his troops have been in combat, I think a little rest and refit (and let others soften the opposition in the meantime) sounds about right. Also, seeing as how the US has declared war on IS, if I were assad I'd spend time to strengthen my army rather than attack an enemy who's going to be battered by air power anyway.
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Russian jets in Syrian skies

Russia has begun its military intervention in Syria, deploying an aerial contingent to a permanent Syrian base, in order to launch attacks against ISIS and Islamist rebels; US stays silent.
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My friend who found the article also stated that he's read a report that the 76th Guards Air Assault Division will be part of the force.
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The bit about the MiG 31 was quoted in one of my groups a couple of days ago. This seems curios as a high speed interceptor would seem very ill suited to helping Syrian Baath regime with, well anything.

Any chance this is a recon version?
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The bit about the MiG 31 was quoted in one of my groups a couple of days ago. This seems curios as a high speed interceptor would seem very ill suited to helping Syrian Baath regime with, well anything.

Any chance this is a recon version?
Hmm I'll ask my friend. I was honestly more curious of the composition of the ground force.
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Syria is now such a basket case that any 'western' contemplation of military intervention immediately finds itself between a rock and a hard place. Just where are any viable 'goodie' groups?
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Syria is now such a basket case that any 'western' contemplation of military intervention immediately finds itself between a rock and a hard place. Just where are any viable 'goodie' groups?
The assumption being that our politicians actually cared about being on the side of 'good' groups? The track record in Syria suggests otherwise.
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The bit about the MiG 31 was quoted in one of my groups a couple of days ago. This seems curios as a high speed interceptor would seem very ill suited to helping Syrian Baath regime with, well anything.

Any chance this is a recon version?
My friend said some says Mig 31 M, but since never went into full production, it's most likely the BM.
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And John Kerry is advising the Russian forces to do nothing. Sorry John, but it's deeds and not words now.
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U.S. Warns Russia Over Military Support for Assad

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Given the track record in Iraq and Libya, wouldn't it make better sense to keep Assad or someone from government, then hold elections later?
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Given the track record in Iraq and Libya, wouldn't it make better sense to keep Assad or someone from government, then hold elections later?
Not Assad personally. He has become too much of a symbol of the past. Elections require at least some minimal level of trust that the results will be fair. With the various militias and militants fighting each other almost as often as they fight the government, I don't see elections any time soon.

Also, ISIL will continue to fight no matter what everyone else does. That will complicate any plans for a negotiated settlement.
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Hezbollah doing some good work.

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http://www.rt.com/news/314852-assang...eaks-us-syria/

Assange to RT: 'US empire' planned to overthrow Syrian govt years before uprising

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Speaking to 'Going Underground' host Afshin Rattansi, Assange referred to the chapter on Syria, which goes back to 2006. In that chapter is a cable from US Ambassador William Roebuck, who was stationed in Damascus, which apparently discusses a plan for the overthrow of the Assad government in Syria.

“...That plan was to use a number of different factors to create paranoia within the Syrian government; to push it to overreact, to make it fear there's a coup...so in theory it says 'We have a problem with Islamic extremists crossing over the border with Iraq, and we're taking actions against them to take this information and make the Syrian government look weak, the fact that it is dealing with Islamic extremists at all.'”

He added that the most serious part of the plan was to*“foster tensions between Shiites and Sunnis. In particular, to take rumors that are known to be false...or exaggerations and promote them – that Iran is trying to convert poor Sunnis, and to work with Saudi and Egypt to foster that perception in order to make it harder for Iran to have influence, and also harder for the government to have influence in the population.”
Surprising.
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Should have given the USD$500 million to the YPG Kurds
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No wonder ISIS has doubled its Syrian territory in the twelve months of U.S. bombing.

http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-...-in-iraq-syria
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