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Syrian Civil War, 2011 - ? From a local uprising to a proxy war, we discuss the chaos in Syria.

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It will be interesting to know the true number of people pro and con Al Assad. If the majority of them support him, should the priority still be given to pro-democratic movements ?
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Syria crisis: Assad denies role in Houla massacre...

Syria's President Bashar al-Assad has denied his government's forces had any role in the Houla massacre.
More than 100 people, many of them children, were killed in the attack overnight between 25 and 26 May, most knifed or shot at close range.
Mr Assad described the killings as an "ugly crime" that even "monsters" would not carry out.
Addressing parliament, he blamed "foreign meddling" for Syria's divisions.
"What happened in Houla and elsewhere (in Syria) are brutal massacres which even monsters would not have carried out," he said in the televised address.



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Say, I've got a use for the X-37b.

Load it up with a DU projectile and release it when he has a public speaking engagement...

Problem solved...

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Fine. Let Russia support one of the antagonist's in this struggle, but don't complain if the other side is supported by others.
but where's the 'other side'??.. i see none, except for another 'occupy wall street' only this time armed with guns!
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Mr Assad described the killings as an "ugly crime" that even "monsters" would not carry out.
So he denies that his monsters were involved. Interesting choice of words.
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Say, I've got a use for the X-37b. Load it up with a DU projectile and release it when he has a public speaking engagement... Problem solved
nope, problem remains, the west is sick and that's the problem.
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So he denies that his monsters were involved. Interesting choice of words.
...so that you in the west would understand, the man speaks your language, right?
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...so that you in the west would understand, the man speaks your language, right?
Hey, cheer on another murdering tyrant. Why limit yourself to just one when you can collect the whole set.
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Hey, cheer on another murdering tyrant.
the usa needs be cheered, eh?
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It might be just me, but I really don't see this London-educated, former eye suregeon with a very cute, British-born wife as being the 'brutal dictator' that he he is being almost universally charaterized as.

I mean, just look at him! He's obviously a wimp, a mummy's boy, an aspiring (but probably failed) nerd. Hardly a Ghadaffi, a Saddam or a Mugabe.



Locals have identified civilian militias, called Shabiha, from nearby villages for the recent massacres. These militias support the regime but are not under the regime's direct control. To the extent that anyone is in control, this will be from senior regime military, intelligence, Alawite, and Assad family figures over whom Assad and his wife, I am guessing, have little sway.

If I am correct, simply removing Assad (as everyone is saying is the solution) would do nothing to alleviate the situation. Others from his family and tribe would step in and, since they are, I believe, already calling the shots. Nothing would change.

There are said to be 20,000 Alawite and other members of the regime who are totally dependent on the largesse of the regime. Merely removing their titular head would do little to change that equation.


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but where's the 'other side'??.. i see none, except for another 'occupy wall street' only this time armed with guns!

There must be another side.................. oh that's right, the Syrian Army is shooting in the air.
It must be one of those Arab celebration thingys.
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There must be another side.................. oh that's right, the Syrian Army is shooting in the air.
they shoot at gangs hired by the west to bring syria to the state of lybia and egypt and iraq.
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they shoot at gangs hired by the west to bring syria to the state of lybia and egypt and iraq.

Ah yes, the great western conspiracy.

I think you've been reading to many conspiracy novels or something.
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No, Russia supports the Syrians and wants the continued use of the Syrian port that they frequent.

The Iranians support the Syrians because of Hezbollah and because they are enemies of Israel.

Interestingly, though off-topic for this thread, the Russians also rendered technical assistance for the Iranian nuclear program. That might demonstrate how ignorant the Iranians are-why would you engage anyone who had built the Chernobyl nuclear power plant?

Perhaps that will ensure the self-destruction of the Iranian nuclear program?

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