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Question First use of gabions

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When were they used first ?

Were they used late in the 100 years war ?
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I cannot find a definite time frame or date. However, I believe that you are correct and that the development and use of gabions came with the use of gunpowder artillery late in the 100 Years' War or perhaps a little later as siege warfare, coupled with the development of fortifications, became more sophisticated when the older castles became obsolete because of artillery development and employment.

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I cannot find a definite time frame or date. However, I believe that you are correct and that the development and use of gabions came with the use of gunpowder artillery late in the 100 Years' War or perhaps a little later as siege warfare, coupled with the development of fortifications, became more sophisticated when the older castles became obsolete because of artillery development and employment.

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Thank you for your answer,
from what I understand they were in use during the two roses war, but I'm not sure about the late HYW.
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Here's a link showing an illustration in a book from 1496 where the besieger's cannon are protected by gabions:

http://heidicon.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/id/16016

This link explains that gabions date back to ancient Egypt, where they were used to reinforce river banks:

http://www.sandhp.com/2014/09/what-a...kets-used-for/

Seems like it may be old design and new usage.

Can't find anything earlier than the first link above, although they must have been relatively common by 1496.
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Now that is awesome !

I am planning to make a diorama which includes a siege bombard; almost exactly the same as in this illustration !



Good links !


Thank you very much !!!

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