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Russia says Georgia's entry to NATO could lead to war

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Russia’s foreign minister has warned of a repetition of its 2008 war with Georgia if the South Caucasus state joins NATO.

Speaking at a news conference after the NATO-Russia Council in Brussels on Thursday, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said he had warned NATO foreign ministers against “pushing the current Georgian regime towards a repetition of their August 2008 gamble.”

Georgia has been pursuing NATO membership but the five-day war in 2008 over Georgia’s breakaway territory of South Ossetia has made the alliance wary of taking it on.

Speaking during a visit to Georgia last month, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the country had “come a lot closer” to joining, but added that Tbilisi should pursue reforms.

“Further reforms will be Georgia’s ticket to membership and NATO is here to help,” Rasmussen told Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20111208/169485481.html

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Only if that's what Putin wants.
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I don't quite understand, why will they go to war when Georgia joins NATO?
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That global warming is getting worse. Now the waves of the North Atlantic are lapping at Georgia's borders.
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Like it, Rojik. This illustrates my point in another thread about the USSR. What the Georgians do has sod all to do with Moscow, but here's Putin making threats because he doesn't like it. F**K HIM !!!
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I don't quite understand, why will they go to war when Georgia joins NATO?
Because Putin wants his neighbors to be weak so he can crush them easily. Russia thinks they are entitled to tell their neighbors what to do, and thus any neighbor that does anything to protect their sovereignty would be a threat to the influence they think they deserve.
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Because Putin wants his neighbors to be weak so he can crush them easily. Russia thinks they are entitled to tell their neighbors what to do, and thus any neighbor that does anything to protect their sovereignty would be a threat to the influence they think they deserve.
Well that's not cool. I'm for Georgia although they'd probably get pawned in a war with Russia
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Agreement must be unanimous and certain members will never agree. Georgia isn't going to be added to NATO.
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Like it, Rojik. This illustrates my point in another thread about the USSR. What the Georgians do has sod all to do with Moscow, but here's Putin making threats because he doesn't like it. F**K HIM !!!
Perhaps he fears the arrival of another Stalin.
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Well that's not cool. I'm for Georgia although they'd probably get pawned in a war with Russia
Which is why people have guns, to defend themselves from those who would do them harm. Understand the concept?
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Which is why people have guns, to defend themselves from those who would do them harm. Understand the concept?
Yes and no. But gun rights and the like aren't the topic of the thread, so I'll leave that alone...
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Yes and no. But gun rights and the like aren't the topic of the thread, so I'll leave that alone...
I wasn't implying gun rights, but rather the concept of using violence to defend yourself from those who would do you harm. But you know, Georgia could always send Putin a strongly worded letter, but that might backfire on them.
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I wasn't implying gun rights, but rather the concept of using violence to defend yourself from those who would do you harm. But you know, Georgia could always send Putin a strongly worded letter, but that might backfire on them.
Or they could just not join NATO, which is probably what's going to happen anyways.
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Or they could just not join NATO, which is probably what's going to happen anyways.
Yes but this is what Russia wants, for them to not be in NATO so Russia can crush them if they want to. So what is Georgia to do?
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Yes but this is what Russia wants, for them to not be in NATO so Russia can crush them if they want to. So what is Georgia to do?
Not join NATO, it's not worth war... if Russia were to attack Georgia without cause, they'd receive international condemnation.

Putin, for all his faults, is smarter than that.
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