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Though vast amounts of data is being accumulated, there just aren't enough trained analysts to even go through the data that has been flagged. Thus the sifting process is being constantly updated to really focus on where the analysts need to focus their energies.
So unless your meeting their varied criteria from various forms of comms, I doubt you have much to worry about.

Hey darling whose is the black mini-van parked across the street! and who are those guys in the grey overalls?
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Though vast amounts of data is being accumulated, there just aren't enough trained analysts to even go through the data that has been flagged. Thus the sifting process is being constantly updated to really focus on where the analysts need to focus their energies.
So unless your meeting their varied criteria from various forms of comms, I doubt you have much to worry about.

Hey darling whose is the black mini-van parked across the street! and who are those guys in the grey overalls?
If you bumped the topic might as well....

During Cast Lead an Iranian open forum compiled a very lacking, yet very extensive list of "war criminals" that serve in the IDF. From POG privates to the Chief of Staff and everyone in between. All of it was based on OPINT downright to address, phone numbers, e-mails, photos, I.D numbers and the likes.

That is without mentioning that this forum has "military" in it's title, a "modern warfare", "Arab-Israeli", "Terrorism" and similar sections.
It has vets and, experts and buffs writing on it, you can be sure as sure can be that it is monitored to a certain degree.

And just a little anecdote- one of the Israeli forums I frequent once had a "think tank" like debate of what the possibilities of a war with Iran- what would it look like and the likes. The following day the entire blogsphere was filled with the info presented as "top secret information depicting the future Israeli strike on Iran that was retrieved by hackers from Israeli MOD computers".
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During Cast Lead an Iranian open forum compiled a very lacking, yet very extensive list of "war criminals" that serve in the IDF. From POG privates to the Chief of Staff and everyone in between. All of it was based on OPINT downright to address, phone numbers, e-mails, photos, I.D numbers and the likes.

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In the US it is usually just referred to as Open Source (I know, it's downright weird that the US is NOT using an acronym for once. )

OTOH, if people are monitoring ACG they are going to get a lot of "Opinion Intelligence". It's worth what you pay for it.
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Who's to say some of us aren't counter agents trying to create deception through false data?
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Who's to say some of us aren't counter agents trying to create deception through false data?
How do you know we don't already know?
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Generally we all do a good job of not revealing any ongoing ops, or dipping into stuff that might be sensitive or classified to some degree. And as for someone trying to data-mine ACG for advice, I've often wondered if some of the newbies asking a huge number of questions in Weapons of War were doing just that. After the torrent of advice they'd get, most of it being debated by other posters they seem to give up and probably think that all of us are a bit loony and have no clue what we're talking about.
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I would assume that when you post something on a public web site you are giving up a certain amount of privacy rights because you posted voluntarily.

Obviously it is a condition of membership that we can see your IP address and look at your location. We use this to prevent multiple accounts and identify problem users.

Clearly if someone wants to keep this information private, other than by using some sort of internet trickery, then s/he shouldn't join such a public forum.
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First of all I would like to say that I have nothing but the deepest respect for the brave and hard-working agents of our government and will cooperate with any investigation and/or prosecution of any poster here, especially the CIA-hating Number 6.

That said, anything you post here is as public as if you took out ad space in a newspaper.

The Feds used to use Carnivore, a program which swept through BBs looking for combinations of certain words, and hits would be processed through different filters. those that made it all the way through would be flagged for review by a human. I imagine they've got a lot better software now. Plus dedicated personnel surfing the more contentious sites.

My agency watches Facebook, and have made a lot of cases in our area based on what people post.
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It absolutely amazes me what people post on facebook, expecting there will be no consequences to such things.
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I've seen people log on from the main Dept. of Agriculture site. Perhaps a lot of spare time between harvests?
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I read on a member's wall that rebpreacher is conducting surveillance at ACG, and that he was banned from another forum for the same action.

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I would assume that when you post something on a public web site you are giving up a certain amount of privacy rights because you posted voluntarily.

Obviously it is a condition of membership that we can see your IP address and look at your location. We use this to prevent multiple accounts and identify problem users.

Clearly if someone wants to keep this information private, other than by using some sort of internet trickery, then s/he shouldn't join such a public forum.
You'd be surprised by the amount of classified data (some of it extremely classified...) that people post on Facebook without realizing...
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You'd be surprised by the amount of classified data (some of it extremely classified...) that people post on Facebook without realizing...

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