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While I can definitely appreciate the organization of doing the refits by class, I feel that this will weaken us in very specific areas as we do so. For instance, the first month all of our heavy ships would be out of action, then all of our mediums, etc. However, we are getting ready to operate on a three-fleet basis, and I would suggest that 1st Fleet (GMan88s), 2nd Fleet (TC4) and 3rd Fleet (reserve) get refitted in fleet order. This way we maintain a better capacity all around as we are improving our readiness. It will also make it faster to begin the renewed combat against the Zetans. I will organize the fleets tonight and post them up so refits can start.

I would also make a recommendation as to the modular nature of the shielding. If the generators are not 'full ship' but instead 'zone oriented', I would recommend that on Battleships and SBBs that the main batteries have their own shielding. This minimizes risk to the ship when in normal combat. IE BB1s would have their nose independently shielded so they could fire their HFCRGs without lowering the shields of the whole ship. BB2s and SBBs would have the turrets independently shielded. And Carriers would have their fighter bays independently shielded so they can launch fighters without lowering their entire shields.

Suggestions for construction:

SBBs: 1 SBB
BBs: 7xBC4, 7xBC1, 7xBC2 (trying to ensure that we have a mix of missile and railgun ships, and with both shields and SBBs, there's no reason not to try to have a fast-n-light medium line)
FG: 50 FG
DD: 52 DD
CA: 10
CL: 15

I think that that, paired with our current structure, will give us a more flexible and powerful battleline. With the fact that the Zetans have mostly seen our Plasma and Railgun techs, I want to get away from that a bit and show them our missile tech. They cant protect every ship against every threat, so I want to keep a very mixxed force that can present different profiles against every enemy ship.
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One - Agreed - we do Fleet Refits by Fleet Order.

I think this will work with Capacity - as we will not be using the Shipyards directly, only parking them alongside for a Refit.

Two - Agreed also - Zone Orientated Shield Generators will give us greater flexibility. I would suggest one Zone or more should cover Engineering ( Power, and Propulsion ). We can also have Bridge Shields.

Three - Agreed also - I will schedule New Builds to comply with these requirements.

One further Suggestion - my Battle Fleet commander would like to get in on this.
Could you use a Fourth Fleet under Admiral Snowy - who would comply with your Orders ? He would be so instructed.

I do truly believe that our System Defences are getting very good now.
I will add-in "Smart" Minefields around Systems this week - something which I have been meaning to do.

As a forward planning consideration - in a few Months we hope to be getting some more Weapons Tech. [ a few weeks "real time" ].
Very powerful pulsed Neutron Beam Weapons - which will fire very powerful pulses of massed Neutron pulses, at faster than light speed.
Broderick is working on this ATM.
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As PSC is now large enough that it can no longer be flung around as a single grand fleet to any effect, I have decided to split it into 3 administrative divisions. Unlike the previous split of carriers, battleships, and scouts, this fleet organization will be balanced across the board for the missions expected to ensue.

1st Fleet:

SBB: 1
SCV: 2
CV: 4
BB1: 2
BB2: 4
BB4: 2
BC1: 3
BC2: 3
BC4: 1
CA: 3
CL: 8
CS: 11
FA: 20
DD: 30
CVL: 5
CFR: 3
CC: 6


2nd Fleet:

SBB: 1
SCV: 3
CV: 2
BB1: 2
BB2: 4
BB4: 2
BC1: 3
BC2: 2
BC4: 1
CA: 3
CL: 8
CS: 11
FA: 20
DD: 30
CVL: 5
CFR: 3
CC: 6

3rd Fleet:

SCV: 2
FA: 10
CH: 9
CA: 3
BB4: 1
CL: 4
BB1: 1
BB2: 1
CVL: 1
DD: 10
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1 x SBB Annulment of Mercy. Completion expected in 3 Months.
2 x BC1 China Class. Xun Zi, Pang Yuan. Completion in 2 Months.
11 x CA Gods Class. Spenta Mainu, Straiosa, Srosh, Vata, Hvar, Khshathra Vairya, Mah, Mao, Mithra, Nairyosangha, Rashnu. Completion in 3 Months.
8 x CL Sea Asia Class. Can Tho, Jember, Cilacap, Hat Yai, Tawau, Kluang, Batam, Cam Pha. Completion in 3 Months.
4 x CFR ( Cruiser, Fleet Repair ) Ships. Le Havre, Plymouth, Gravenhague, Goteborg. Completion in 3 Months.
60 x DD Town Class. Astrakhan, Essen, Honshu, Valparaiso, Anzio, Ploesti, Thesaloniki, Brescia, Skopje, Burgos, Constanta, Izmir, Toulon, Genoa, Palermo, Bursa, Durban, Derby, York, Lille, Nantes, Oran, Castelon, Alicante, Port Said, Aleppo, Homa, Shokhty, Noklayev, Poznan, Halle, Simferopol, Volgograd, Lodz, Brest, Potsdam, Augsberg, Valladolid, Malaga, Almeria, Szeged, Lublin, Annaba, Le Mans, Clermont, Stuttgart, Kefallinia, Naxos, Middlesboro, Aberdeen, Bangor, Carron, Santander, Milan, Turin, Taranto, Linares, Bilbao, Limoges, Rouen. Completion in 2 Months.

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50 x Frigates Magic Class. Magician, Wizard, Witch, Conjuror, Magus, Warlock, Shaman, Astrologer, Diviner, Augerer, Necromancer, Sorceror, Seer, Soothsayer, Adept, Whiz, Alchemist, Occultist, Voodoo, Exorcist, Enchanter, Eerie, Spectral, Rune, Spellbinder, Trancer, Charmer, Illusionist, Taboo, Spellcaster, Mesmerist, Diabolist, Satanist, Athravan, Heirophant, Paladin, Seid, Grimoire, Daemon, Amulet, Efreet, Djinn, Elemental, Spell, Wand, Secret, Cauldron, Incantation, Diabolo, Shaitan.
Completion in 2 Months.

2 x DD Town Class. Lucerne, Darmstadt. Completion in 2 Months.
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Quick clarification: Tac and GMan are the Sol Admirals or whatever rank they are, correct? I know there's 3 fleets including one in reserve. Tac is the defense minister as well?
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I am the Defense Minister, which also makes me the Grand Admiral of the Pheonix Space Command Fleet. Gman88 is an Admiral of the PSC Battle Fleet. He Commands 1st Fleet. I command 2nd Fleet. 3rd Fleet is the Fleet reserve.
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I would suggest that once we get 1st and 2nd fleet fitted with shields that we go ahead and launch an attack against a Zetian system.
Whether we wish to throw both fleets into the battle or just one or use one than wait for the Zetians to react and bring in the second fleet I leave up to the commanders in charge.
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Excellent. Am I to presume our crews are trained already? Technically proficient? How long has the fleet existed under their current fleet designations? Should we allocate a few months' fleet exercises, while some ships are undergoing refit?
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The original crews are well trained and experienced against the Zetans (and a couple of other cultures....). Most of the new crews are clones based heavily on the best and brightest of these crewmen. Therefore the crews should be fine. That and fleet exercises are constantly ongoing, as the fleets have been deployed to different systems for defense and for restructuring. By the time we're out of the yards, we should be ready to go.

The big thing is that the fleets are going to be light in the battle-line department. Until the next wave of SBBs and BBs come out, we're going to be far heavier in Frigates, DDs, and Cruisers. That and we do have some staggering carrier capacities.
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we do have some staggering carrier capacities.

One thing that should be included in the carrier capability (I'm sure they are but just didn't make the list) is search and rescue craft. If any of the pilots have to bail out they will know that we will do our best to find and save them.
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I have always assumed that for every 20-50 fighters that there is a shuttle docked to the ship. A city class would therefore have 1 shuttle, a Moon class 10, and a SCV would have 30. Shuttles would be 2 crew, 2 med crew, and enough space to hold 5 or so litters, or 10 passengers.
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I have always assumed that for every 20-50 fighters that there is a shuttle docked to the ship. A city class would therefore have 1 shuttle, a Moon class 10, and a SCV would have 30. Shuttles would be 2 crew, 2 med crew, and enough space to hold 5 or so litters, or 10 passengers.
Yes I never doubted that you would have some way of rescuing pilots but I wanted it clearly stated just to be sure.
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The big thing is that the fleets are going to be light in the battle-line department. Until the next wave of SBBs and BBs come out, we're going to be far heavier in Frigates, DDs, and Cruisers. That and we do have some staggering carrier capacities.
Don't forget the Attican battle-fleet - currently doing nothing much in particular in Dannica system
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I have offered your Services.

Please Note - you have a few more Ships now.

Battle Fleet – under the Command of Admiral Snowy

2 x SBB Confederation, Democracy.
4 x BB1 Calamity Class. Cataclysm, Tempest, Earthquake, Drought.
2 x BC2 Norse Class. Thor, Odin.
2 x CV Concept Class. Feudal, Heirarchy.
4 x CH Greek Class. Agamemnon, Miltiades, Pericles, Herodotus.
2 x CL. Sea-Asia Class. Miri, Sorong.
6 x CS Explorer Class. Champlain, Davis, Hanno, Cordoba.
4 x Frigates. ‘M’ Class. Cyclops, Golem, Harpy, Kraken.
6 x DD Town Class. Marseilles, Delph, Mersa Matruh, Mandalay, Mektila, Timbuktoo.

Tac is not sure if he will want to use you - But I will be glad to pass your Command to Phoenix for the forthcoming Operations.
You will of course revert to Attican Defence Command, later.

However - first, we need to Refit your Ships with Energy Shields.
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I am the Defense Minister, which also makes me the Grand Admiral of the Pheonix Space Command Fleet. Gman88 is an Admiral of the PSC Battle Fleet. He Commands 1st Fleet. I command 2nd Fleet. 3rd Fleet is the Fleet reserve.
Sorry-this slightly answers my question...I've been off and on on here for a little more than a week so I think I missed some stuff. So you're both Phoenix fleet commanders? Or what is the PSC Battle Fleet, exactly?

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