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S. F. Game - WAR Thread

This will be the WAR Thread for the Sci Fi Game

The said WAR being between

US, The Phoenix Confederation

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The Galaxy spanning Empire of The Zetans.

Here will be all discussion of Fleets, OOB, Ships,
and actual conduct of the WAR.
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Phoenix Fleet - Current

OOB – Phoenix Federation Fleet

2 x SBB. Republic, Alliance.
3 x BB1 of the Earth Class. Earth, Water, Air
2 x BB1 Calamity Class. Typhoon, Hurricane.
5 x BB2 of the Nation Class. France, Sweden, Canada, Nigeria, Canada.
4 x BB2 ‘H’ Class. Hengist, Horsa, Hotspur, Hero.
5 x BB4 Ruler Class. Magister, Caliph, Rajah, Khan, Dominie.
4 x BC1 China Class. Sun Tzu, Wue Qui, Sun Bin, Yue Yi.
3 x BC2 of the Norse Class Vlarr, Valhalla, Valkyrie.
2 x BC4 Tribal Class. Aztec, Inca.
6 x CH Greek Class. Lycergus, Solon, Cleomenes, Isagoras, Heracles, Bellerophon.
6 x CA of the Gods Class. Zeus, Hera, Aphrodite, Haephestus, Artemis, Athena.
3 x CA of the Nelson Class. Nelson, Hood, Anson.
8 x CL of the Caribbean Class. Jamaica, Bermuda, Bahama, Cuba, St. Nevis, Barbuda, Antigua, Barbados.
8 x CL Sea-Asia Class. Medang, Palembang, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Bangkok, Bandung, Surabaya.#
22 x CS of the Explorer Class. Columbus, Vespucci, Mercator, Cook, Hudson, Cabot, Magellan, Da Gama, Amundsen, Baffin, Ericson, Frobisher, Allen, Barents, Fuchs, Humboldt, Marquette, Pizarro, Scott, Bellinghausen, Alvarado, Byrd.
6 x CFR ( Cruiser, Fleet Repair ) Ships. Belfast, Newcastle, Glasgow, Danzig, Bremen, Hamburg.
7 x Frigates of Panther Class. Panther, Lion, Tiger, Cheetah, Jaguar, Leopard, Lynx.
7 x Frigates of ‘M’ Class. Griffon, Wyvern, Dragon, Hydra, Unicorn, Yeti, Sasquach.
8 x Frigates Active Class. Alacrity, Dexterity, Artisan, Expert, Craftsman, Muse, Tyro, Marksman.
2 x Frigates. Town Class. Mojokerto, Klaten.
14 x DD of the Mountain Class. Ben Nevis, Ruapehu, Ranier, Popocatapetl, Kilimanjaro, Logan, McKinley, Makalu, Lhotse, Cho Oyu, Manaslu, Nanga Parbat, Annapurna, Sishapangma.
5 x DD's of the Town Class. Essen, Interlaken, Lucerne, Kursk, Shanghai.
7 x DD’s of the Egyptian Class. Ra, Amun, Hathor, Sekhmet, Ptah, Nephthys, Seth.
8 x DD’s of the Lake Class. Maracaibo, Michigan, Huron, Superior, Victoria, Tanganyika, Baikal, Great Bear.
4 x DD. Daring Class. Daring, Valorous, Brave, Swiftsure.
12 x Corvettes of the Lord Class. Lord Kelvin, Lord Shaftesbury, Lord Palmerston, Lord Kitchener, Lord Raglan, Lord Cardigan, Lord Nelson, Lord Alton, Lord Byron, Lord Tennyson, Lord Canarvon, Lord Dowding.

7 x SCV of the Continent Class. Antarctica, Latini, America, Asia, Oceania, Australasia, Africa, Sea-Asia.
11 x CVL of the City Class. New York, Washington, Sydney, Berlin, Bejing, Bejing, Nairobi, Brazilia, Djakarta, Buenos Aries, Rangoon.

Phoenix Research Ship

1 x BB of the Nation Class. Brazil.
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Attica - Sub-Fleet

Attica – Sub-Fleet

2 x SBB Confederation, Democracy.
6 x BB1 Calamity Class. Cataclysm, Tempest, Earthquake, Drought, Avalanche, Volcano.
2 x BB2 Nation Class. Germany, Russia.
2 x BB2. ‘H’ Class. Hannibal, Hector.
2 x BC2 Norse Class. Thor, Odin.
7 x CH Greek Class. Agamemnon, Achilles, Jason, Achilles, Jason, Lysander, Perseus.
2 x CA Gods Class. Apollo, Demeter.
1 x CL. Sea-Asia Class. Phnom Penh.
14 x CS Explorer Class. Champlain, Davis, Hanno, Cordoba, Joliet, Bass, Hilary, Cortes, Weddel, Cartier, Drake, Shackleton, Gilbert, Koslov.
10 x CMT ( Cruiser, Military Transport ) Ships. Muscovy, Hansa, Staple, Adventurer, Caravan, Clipper, Trader, Stevedore, Liner, Freighter.
8 x Frigates ‘M’ Class. Hydra, Medusa, Polyphemus, Cerberus, Cyclops, Golem, Harpy, Kraken.
9 x DD Egyptian Class. Anubis, Ma’at, Bastet, Atun, Kephri, Thoth, Osiris, Horus, Sobek.

4 x CV Concept Class. Feudal, Heirarchy, Monarchy, Communism.

1 x Fireship of the Stellar Class Cygnus.

1 x MCS "Millitary Colony Ship" of the Gaia Class Equinox.
1 x Repository Ship - 45 Km Gnomon.

80 x Unarmed Military Transport Ships.

3 x TCS Short-Range Colony Ships Ammonite, Cachalot, Nautilus.
4 x TCS Short-Range Colony Ships Crimea, Fashoda, Balaclava, Salamanca.
2 x Dry Ice / Ice Tankers Deimos, Phobos.
4 x MT Armoured Mining Transports Lombard, Moor, Etruscan, Phoenician.
4 x MT Mining Transports Scythian, Dervish, Assyrian, Sumerian.
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Sol Dominion - Sub-Fleet

Sol Sub-Fleet

3 x BB2 of the Nation Class. Australia, Japan, China.
2 x CH of the Greek Class. Rhea, Kronos.
2 x CA of the Nelson Class. Rodney, Jellicoe.
13 x CC of the River MKII's. Nile, Waikato, Clyde, Rhine, Seine, Po, Mekong, St. Lawrence, Yangtse, Chindwin, Danube, Tigris, Amazon.
3 x Frigates of the Mountain Class. Everest, Olympos Mons, Matterhorn.
6 x DD's of the Town Class. Aberdeen, Lyons, Koln, Gdansk, Barcelona, Damascus.
14 x DD of the Mountain Class. Ben Nevis, Ruapehu, Ranier, Popocatapetl, Kilimanjaro, Logan, McKinley, Makalu, Lhotse, Cho Oyu, Manaslu, Nanga Parbat, Annapurna, Sishapangma.

3 x CV of the Moon Class. Ganymede, Moon, Io.
2 x CVL of the City Class. London, Moscow.

22 x CH of the Battle Class. Aboukir, Copenhagen, Delhi, Assaye, Laswari, Vertieres, Argaon, Suriname, Sitka, Farrukhabad, Derne, Elchingen, Ulm, Trafalgar, Caldiero, Austerlistz, Blaauwburg, Lauria, Jena, Eylau, Heilsburg, Friedland.
Local Defence Ships without Jump Drives.

2 x Colony Ships. Redemption, Justice.
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I would say that we are ready to launch at least a limited attack against a Zetian system. Preferably one that is not a brain system. We should attack one that we just “stumble upon”.
Let's see if we can pick up an increase in transmissions as a result. Then we might be able to figure out how they will react in the future when we are ready to hit many brains at once.
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New Rule - Sorry

Can we please in future try to keep things properly organised here.

There are now Three Threads to this Game --

Sci Fi Wargame - Main Thread - This one, for all Actual Accomplishments, Achievements, Things Built, Things Started Building, etc.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...ad.php?t=99969

S. F. Game - WAR Thread - For all Discussions of War with the Zetans.
OOB, Fleets, Ships, Zetan Systems, Strategy and Tactics.
AND for Postings of the actual WAR.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=109019

S.F. Wargame - Ground Forces Thread - For all Discussions of Ground Forces, Units, Weapons, Equipment, etc.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=108915

S. F. Wargame - Chat - For all other Discussions, Chat, Recommendations, Suggestions, Comments, Proposals, Disagreements even ( but please - no REAL arguments ).

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=107957

Other Threads may be created - if a real and definite need is felt.
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I would say that we are ready to launch at least a limited attack against a Zetian system. Preferably one that is not a brain system. We should attack one that we just “stumble upon”.
Let's see if we can pick up an increase in transmissions as a result. Then we might be able to figure out how they will react in the future when we are ready to hit many brains at once.
Your Suggestion is Noted, and definitely agreed upon.
I would suggest that we try one of the four Planets which we have been "T-Bombing" - we already have Automic Monitor Units in orbit about both of these Systems.
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Attica now has several MILLIONS of Nano-Bots which can be dropped onto Zetan Worlds - Flying Homing Jammers, Crawling Homing Jammers, and Crawling Homing mini-bombs.
Attica is already manufacturing Nano-Bots by the million - and could add Factories for the types of Nan-Bots suggested by Tsar ( Ground Forces Ammunition ) as well - for Ammunition fillings, or for "Bomb" fillings.

We have made some suggestions of how these could be delivered for Maximum Disruption to Zetan Worlds.

If we drop lots of random Iron Bombs with HE fillings, to explode on proximity. Any which do not explode - they may be tempted to try to "defuse".
However - these would be delayed-action types, which will use a low-explosive to burst the shell and scatter packs of Nano-Bots into the air.

These can be of all three types which Attica is manufacturing - airborne "paper plane" Jammers, "insect"-like crawling homing Jammers, AND "insect"-like crawling homing Explosive devices. The homers will all home in on Zetans - and the explosive types wil kill them, we hope.
We could also include some of the Nano-Bots which Tsar has recommended for Ground Force Weapons - in these "Bombs".

So - the Zetans get totally "b*ggered-up" by loads of these things - THEN we drop LOTS of Nuclear Iron Bombs - which will look the same.
We can actually make these fairly "clean", with short-lived Isotopes from the Reaction - but massive Neutron blasts.

The trick with all of this is that the Ships dropping these things from orbit could be "stealthy", with ECM against Zetan Radar - and avoid being actually spotted.
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I will be Posting Coordinates and Details of ALL Zetan Systems which we have logged so far. Later this evening.
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Total Shipbulding Capacity

ATTICA - Total Shipyard Capacity

1 x XSBB 45 Km Capacity.
7.5 x SBB 22 Km Capacity.
17 x BB capacity.
52 x Cruiser Capacity.
42 x Frigate / DD Capacity.

SOL - Total Shipbuilding Capacity

18 x SBB 22 Km Capacity.
24 x BB Capacity.
50 x Cruiser Capacity.
34 x Frigate / DD Capacity.
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Information - Zetan Systems

Information on Zetan Systems which are being monitored

Our Galaxy, the “Milky Way” measures approximately 100,000 Light Years across x 1,000 Light Years thick.
At the distance Sol is from the centre – the approximate thickness of this Galaxy is 600 Light Years.

The total Mass of our Galaxy is approximately 1.4 x 10^42 Kg.

There are an estimated 200 to 400 Billion Stars in our Galaxy – it seems nearer to the latter figure as a result of our Scouting and Surveys. So, we are looking at about 350 Billion Stars in total = 3.5 x 10^11.

Sol is fairly close to the Galactic mean plane ( about halfway through the thickness ) – and lies approximately 27,400 Light Years from the Galactic Centre.

Zetan Space

The region of our Galaxy which may be called “Zetan Space” is a zone which in our “local” area may be taken to lie inwards ( towards the Galactic Centre ) from a circumferential line lying on the centre of the Pandora System.

The Pandora System is approximately 27,395 Light Years from the Galactic Centre, and some 9 Light Years from Sol. It is about 7 Light Years from Attica.

Reference Codes for Zetan Worlds

From this point onwards – all Zetan Systems wil be given Reference Numbers. This will form Approximate Coordinates of their Location.

They will be given Radial Numbers, as Light Years inwards from the nominal “boundary” of Zetan Space.
They will be given Circumferential Numbers, Clockwise or Anti-Clockwise from the radial line through Sol.
They will be given Aligment Numbers, Above or Below the Galactic Mean Plane.

For Example – the Zetan System formerly called ZZ-001, where we destroyed their Alderson Disc, lies 20 Light Years inwards from Pandora, 5 Light Years Clockwise from Sol, and 5 Light Years below the Galactic mean plane.

Its location can thus be given as R20-SC5-5BM.

For Example – the Zetan System formerly called ZA-1001, which has two Zetan Planets, and which Attica has been ‘T-Bombing’ the two Zetan Planets of, lies 40 Light Years inwards from Pandora, 12 Light Years Anti-Clockwise from Sol, and 10 Light Years above the Galactic mean plane.

Its location can thus be given as R40-SA12-10AM.

For Example – the Zetan System formerly called ZB-1001, which has two Zetan Planets and a suspected Zetan Slave World, and which Attica has been ‘T-Bombing’ the two Zetan Planets of, lies 35 Light Years inwards from Pandora, 4 Light Years Clockwise from Sol, and 6 Light Years below the Galactic mean plane.

Its location can thus be given as R35-SC4-6BM.

There are actually 400 Zetan Systems which have been logged by the two Automitic Monitoring Stations, nearly all of which have been logged by both Units. These are all Zetan System which show some Zetan EM activity.

These Automatic Monitoring Units cannot provide accurate Data beyond this – as their range is limited by their construction and internal systems, and by their Powerplants.

Full Data can be provided for ALL 400 of these Zetan Systems, on request.

IMPORTANT - Location and Direction.

In this part of the Galaxy, ALL Zetan Systems which have been detected lie INWARDS, that is Towards The Galactic Centre from us.

I will be preparing an Exel Spreadsheet of the Zetan Worlds - coz it is impossible to give details of 400 Worlds here.
I will then Attach that File to a Post in here.
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Attica - New Ships Commenced.

Attica has just commenced the Building of the following New Ships.

Building - 2 x SBB. Aggressive Diplomacy, Extreme Prejudice. Completion in 3 Months.
Building - 1 x BB1 Earth Class. Fire. Completion in 3 Months.
Building - 4 x BB1 Calamity Class. Cylcone, Flood, Eruption, Meteorite. Completion in 3 Months.
Building - 9 x CA Gods Class. Apam Natat, Arishtat, Asha Vahishta, Asman, Atar, Baga, Bahram, Burigas, Hvar. Completion in 3 Months.
Building - 4 x CL Sea-Asia Class. Cam Rhan, Miri, Sorong, Blitar. Completion in 3 Months.

Building - 1 x SCV Siberia. Completion in 3 Months.
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Attica - Super Battle Stations - Galactica and Nebula

For Information -

The two self-powered Super Battle Stations - Galactica and Nebula

are now 1/4 Built - Construction in proceeding in orbit in a Secret Location.
These two SBS "Monsters" each have the following Specification
( in brief ) --

They will be “Egg Shaped”. Diameter / Minor Axis - 600 Km. Major Axis - 800 Km.
Volume = 150816000 Km^3 = 1.50816 x 10^12 m^3
Mass ( Kg ) = 5.0272 x 10^11 Metric tonnes
They will each have a Crew Capacity as follows -
Crew – 265,000
Monitoring and Communications – 20,000
Gunners – 60,000
Troops – 600,000
Storm Troopers – 50,000
Support Staff – 45,000
Pilots and Support – 200,000
Fighters – 8,000
They will also provide both internal and external Docking for many Ships.
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Attica - Additional New Ships Commenced

Stardate – February 2137

8 x Bombing Cruisers – for dropping various kinds of ‘dumb’ bombs on Zetan Planets, lightly armoured and armed, and with advanced Stealth Systems. Large “bomb bays” for loading and dropping Bombs.

Building 8 x CB Cruiser, Bombing – Fatal Flower Class. Nightshade, Monkshood, Baneberry, Snakeroot, Corncockle, Allamanda, Belladona, Anthurium. Completion is expected in 3 Months.

16 x Stealth Frigates – for Close Range “Stealth” Attack. They will be very agile, lightly armoured. With Missiles, and powerful short-range Railguns as “carronades” for firing special high inertia bolts. These bolts will comprise a Tungsten core, Plutonium body and Boron Carbide hard outer shell.

Building 16 x FS Frigates, Stealth – Mystery Class. Mystery, Conundrum, Enigma, Sphynx, Riddle, Oracle, Puzzle, Crux, Problem, Teaser, Twister, Question, Secret, Rebus, Perplex, Cryptic. Completion is expected in 2 Months.
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Fleets - Short List

OOB – Phoenix Federation Fleet

2 x SBB
5 x BB1
9 x BB2
5 x BB4
4 x BC1
3 x BC2
2 x BC4
6 x CH
9 x CA
16 x CL
22 x CS
6 x CFR Cruiser, Fleet Repair
24 x Frigates
38 x DD
12 x Corvettes

7 x SCV
11 x CVL

OOB - Attica – Sub-Fleet

2 x SBB
6 x BB1
6 x BB2
2 x BB2
2 x BC2
7 x CH
2 x CA
1 x CL
14 x CS
10 x CMT Cruiser, Military Transport
8 x Frigates
9 x DD

4 x CV

OOB - Sol Sub-Fleet

3 x BB2
2 x CH
2 x CA
13 x Cruisers - River Class
3 x Frigates
20 x DD

3 x CV
2 x CVL

22 x CH - Battle Class. Local Defence Ships without Jump Drives.
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Ok, which sub-fleet do I command? And when do we use it?
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@ GMan88

I think you may have to P.M. to our Esteemed Defence Minister and Grand Admiral.

I am not really a WAR leader - this Thread was for him, but no Input yet.
I have P.Md. him and Visitor Messaged him - but no Reply.
I think he must be peed off with me.
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