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Turret ring & Race

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Hello Guy, & Gals;


...... This information is for the builders that plan on building an interior, or
partial interior in there Panther.

..... If you are using one of these three books for Reference, there are some
things you need to understand about them.

1. Walther Spielbergerger"s "Panther & it's Variants".
2. We Feist & Bruce Culver's "Panzerkampfwagen Panther"
3. Tomas L. Jantz "Panther Tank".

..... These books are very good Ref. But, all three books are using the same
set of photographs, that where taken at the MAN facility. Many of the photos
are build up pics, and are not complete. They are showing various different
stages of construction. This was a common practice for the Germans during
the Second World War.
..... For example......... the chaise turret race and ring. In all three books it
looks the same. If you did not know better you could be mislead. DML also
made this mistake with there new model kits.


This is how your three Ref. Books show the chaise, (-) the seals




This is how the chaise should look, when the turret is removed. Note......... the turret ring gear.










...... I already know what some of you are going to say. So I will beat you
to the punch.

Note..... In this photo the crew is aliening the traversing transmission with the chaise ring, so they do not have trouble when they install the turret
later. Also note..... they only have enough bolts in the ring so it does not
move during alignment.
..... Hmmmmmmm looks familiar doesn't it. This is the error that DML made.






...... There is a reality easy fix for this problem. Slice through the bottom
of the ring, close to the top of the gear. Do not cut the whole ring off, you
will need this to keep the turret on the chaise.
..... After slicing sand both sides, ((turret ring) and your new gear ring),
flip your new gear ring upside down. Insert into the chaise and glue.

....... Whaaalla...... We now have a correct chaise, and turret.

Remember to do this on all of you tanks, until DML decides to make changes.
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Turret Ring & Race pt. 2

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Hello Guys, & Gals;


..... Last time I showed you what the race was suppose to look like on the
real tank. This time I am going to show you how the race & gear ring
should look like on your model Panther.

..... I used my scribing tool...... cutting along the top of the gear ring.
take your time and go slow. Any slips here, and you will be filling, and
sanding............

This is the scribing tool that I use.






.....After scribing the ring into two pieces, sand & fix any UPS's that you may have. After sanding, your pieces should look like this.










..... Flip the gear ring over and glue to the chaise. At this time it is a good idea to put the turret bottom on the chaise, so you get the proper hight. We do not want to have to re-do this step after gluing.

..... This is what the gear ring & race should look like when finished..... Note... mine is not glued in yet. Drill the bolt holes in the race, and this project is finished.









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Dang, compared to the crudeness of the Soviet tanks that I've seen as a teenager growing up in Poland, the workmanship of the Panther is poetry & art. Same standard of quality as an M-1 Abrams. No wonder the German industry lost the arms race. Their stuff was too awesome.

In a Soviet tank, if the rear armor plate doesn't fit because the holes don't align the bolts, they will just drill the holes larger with sloppiness that would make a German welder cry. But the completed tank works, and does the job.
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