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From: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/africa/20...g-libya-feb-23

I wanted to post this info. on the 'Gadhaffi: Will die a martyr thread' but for some reaoson have not been able access the last post in the thread so I started a new thread. Here's some extracts of the latest news of the past 24 hours from Al Jazeera. This extract may be particularly intriguing:

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6.30pm: Former justice minister Mustapha Abdeljalil told the Swedish newspaper Expressen that Muammar Gaddafi personally ordered the Lockerbie bombing in 1988, the paper reported on its website.

"I have proof that Gaddafi gave the order on Lockerbie," said the minister, who stepped down Monday to protest the ongoing violence in Libya.
7.57pm: A source speaking to Al Jazeera from the outskirts of Tripoli, said that a number of tanks and cars carrying gun-weilding Gaddafi-supporters were in the Tajura district of the capital, heading towards the city center.

7.51pm: Reuters reports that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he will allow 300 Palestinians in Libya to enter the Palestinian territories in the coming days.

7.48pm: PJ Crowley, the US state department spokesperson, says the country is looking at using "a full range of tools," including possible sanctions, on Libya, news agency Reuters reports.

7.46pm: Key towns and cities in Libya are under protester-control, including Benghazi and Tobruk. International media organisations, including Al Jazeera, are now able to broadcast Live pictures from these cities. Here is a screen shot of footage we were able to get today:

7.32pm: Libya's deputy foreign minister, Khaled Khaim, told EU ambassadors in Tripoli that Al-Qaeda had set up an Islamic emirate in Derna, led by a former US prisoner at Guantanamo Bay named Abdelkarim al-Hasadi.

Residents in Derna rejected the claims, saying Khaim's words were "something to scare Europe with".

7.24pm: European Union governments agreed to prepare possible sanctions on Libya in response to Gaddafi's violent crackdown on anti-government protests, EU diplomats told the Reuters news agency.

The measures could include visa bans, asset freezes, an arms embargo and other restrictions, Reuters said.

7.04pm: Malta has turned back the unscheduled flight that was carrying Gaddafi's daughter, Aisha Gaddafi. The plane is said to be headed back to Libya, Cal Perry reports from Valletta.

6.55pm: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, tells the Associated Press that if reports of aerial attacks against civilians turn out to be true, the international community may need to impose a no-fly zone over Libya.

Peru had previously called for the UN to establish a no-fly zone overthe country.

6.45pm: Nour Al Masmari, former head of Gaddafi protocol, tells Al Jazeera he resigned because it was the "human" thing to do following the Libyan leader's actions, which he called "genocide". Masmari said "it is the end of it" adding:

Now [Gaddafi] is using mercinaries, not because he wants to use them but because he cannot use the army. He cannot use the armed forces of Libya because they are Libyans and they are faithful and honest people. They cannot kill themselves. and killing their cousins and uncles and friends means they are killing themselves. So he doesnt trust them. He doesnt even trust his own guard.

6.40pm: Three workers at Libya's embassy in Sweden resign in protest of government crackdown, the Associated Press reports.

6.34pm: At least 640 people have been killed since the protests began, the International Federation for Human Rights (IFHR) says. This figure is more than double the official Libyan government toll of 300 dead.

6.30pm: Former justice minister Mustapha Abdeljalil told the Swedish newspaper Expressen that Muammar Gaddafi personally ordered the Lockerbie bombing in 1988, the paper reported on its website.

"I have proof that Gaddafi gave the order on Lockerbie," said the minister, who stepped down Monday to protest the ongoing violence in Libya.

6.27pm: At least three oil cargoes have left Libyan ports in the past 24 hours despite a revolt against Muammar Gaddafi's four-decade rule, trade and shipping sources said.

6.15pm: A private Libyan jet that was prevented from landing at Beirut's airport was carrying on board the wife of one of Gaddafi's sons, Voice of Lebanon radio reported Wednesday.

Several Libyan regime figures could have been among the plane's passengers, the radio station said.

6.10pm: Government sources say Muammar Gaddafi's daughter was on board the National Libyan Airlines plane that tried to land in Malta on Thursday, Al Jazeera's Cal Perrry reports from Valletta.

5.52pm: Hussein Muserati, a former Libyan diplomat who recently resigned told Al Jazeera the uprising was a revolt by people "suffering from poverty, injustice and corruption". Muserati added:

We do not oppose [Gaddafi] in person, we oppose his policies, his injustices, his tyrany, because now, as far as we are concerned, it represents facism. It represents a policy like Hitler's policy.. killing innocent people and violating all sanctities of Libyan people

5.41pm: The European commission estimates that some 10, 000 EU citizens are awaiting evacuation from Libya.

5.34pm: Italy predicts that some 300, 000 Libyans could flee to Europe "if" Gaddafi falls. The country and five other European nations are trying to prepare for that possibility. They are gathered in Rome to work out a consolidated response if Gaddafi falls.

On Thursday, all 27 interior ministers and justice ministers from the EU also plan to meet, Al Jazeera's Harry Smith said.

5.25pm: A National Libyan Airline plane is circling the airspace off the coast of Malta, Al Jazeera's Cal Perry reports from Valletta. "The plane is saying they are running out of fuel and need to land .. they are negotiating with the runway about landing," Perry says.

But soldiers have been deployed and authorities are "nervous" about what could be on board the plane, he adds.

4.50pm: The International Criminal Court says it cannot investigate crimes in Libya unless the country's authorities accept the court's jurisdiction or the UN Security Council refers the situation to the ICC

The Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC issued this statement:

The decision to do justice in Libya should be taken by the Libyan people. Currently, Libya is not a State Party to the Rome Statute. Therefore, intervention by the ICC on the alleged crimes committed in Libya can occur only if the Libyan authorities accept the jurisdiction of the Court, (through article 12(3) of the Rome Statute). In the absence of such step, the United Nations Security Council can decide to refer the situation to the Court. The Office of the Prosecutor will act only after either decision is taken".

4.40pm: The UK foreign minister says that Libyans who violate human rights should be held to account, news agency Reuters reports.

4.27pm: A Libyan airforce plane has crashed near Benghazi after the crew bailed out, the country's Quryna Newspaper reports. The newspaper said the crew had orders to bomb Benghazi, but refused to carry them out.

4.17pm: Major General Suleiman Mahmoud, a commander in Libyan army in Tobruk, is now on the side of the Libyan people. He called Gaddafi "a tyrant" and told Al Jazeera "the people in the army are steadfast" in the city.

4.10pm: Italy is increasingly concerned about the exodus of immigrants from Libya that could be heading towards Europe. This comes as the interior ministers from six nations - France, Greece, Cyprus, Malta and Italy - plan to meet.

4.03pm: More from Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel Hamid in Tobruk. She reported seeing hundreds of Egyptians fleeing Libya with everything they own. "People are still very scared, especially after Gaddafi's speech, and thought it best to leave the country now," she said.

3.59pm: Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose security forces crushed protests against him in 2009, condemned state brutality against protesters in Libya. He said on Wednesday:

How can a leader subject his own people to a shower of machine-guns, tanks and bombs? How can a leader bomb his own people, and afterwards say 'I will kill anyone who says anything?'

3.51pm: Italy's foreign ministry has said attempts to crush a revolt against Gaddafi's four-decade rule have killed as many as 1,000 people in Libya.

3.41pm: Libyan protesters claim to have taken over Misurata, which would be the largest city in the western half in the country to fall into their hands, news agency AP reports. There are reports that six people were killed and 200 were injured in fighting there.

Libyans told AFP that the anti-Gaddafi movement was in firm control from the Egyptian border through Tobruk and Libya's second city Benghazi until Ajdabiya, further west along the coast.

3.27pm: As much as a quarter of Libyan oil output has been shut down, the Reuters news agency reports. Libya produces almost 2 per cent of the world's oil.

3.19pm: Off the coast of Malta, ships are patrolling following reports of Libyan vessels in the area. It is unclear whether these Libyan vessels are potential defectors, or if they are Gaddafi's navy ships, Al Jazeera's Cal Perry said from Valletta.

3.16pm: Al Jazeera's Jamal Elshayyal reporting from the Egypt-Libya border says roughly 20, 000 have already crossed over the main land terminal between the two countries, carry many things including luggage, satellite dishes and washing machines.

2.55pm: There were no security forces present in Tobruk and it has been quite calm in the cities of Bayda and Benghazi on Wednesday, Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel Hamid said from Tobruk. But militia are still said to be roaming the streets in some cities.

2:23pm We're now broadcasting live from inside Libya; specifically, from the eastern city of Tobruk, which we hear is under protester control. Our footage shows an anti-Gaddafi rally, with people holding "Free Libya" signs.

2:08pm A contact with friends and family in Libya has set up a YouTube channel to pass on videos from the troubled country. One is particularly interesting, because it appears to show clear footage of a Chinook transport helicopter flying over what we've been told is Jomhouriya Street in Tripoli. Separate witnesses have reported that armed troops, possible the "mercenaries," have been moving about the capital using such helicopters.

1:46pm A British oil worker stranded with others in a camp in eastern Libya has called on his government to rescue them from a "nightmare" scenario. James Coyle told the BBC that he and around 300 other Britons, Germans, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Austrians and Romanians were stranded at the desert camp with only enough food and water to "maybe" last one day.

Residents of nearby towns armed with AK-47s have come to the camp multiple times to take supplies, he said.



"They've looted ... the German camp next door, they've taken all their vehicles, all our vehicles ... everything. So we are here desperate for the British government to come and get us," Coyle said.

1:25pm The Wall Street Journal newspaper has weighed in on Libya with a fiery editorial that argues the West should be asserting itself more forcefully to end Gaddafi's 42-year reign, beginning by offering humanitarian aid to protesters and enforcing a no-fly zone in the country and extending to threatening to bomb Libyan airfields and arming the protesters.

1:08pm Al Jazeera's Harry Smith reports from Rome on the Italian and European reaction to the revolt in Libya. We've already heard the foreign ministers remarks (see below). Smith says a council of six nations, including France, Spain, Malta, Cyprus and Greece, will be meeting soon in Italy to discuss the increased flow of emigrants into Europe from northern African nations; Libya has put another huge problem on their plate.

Smith also says that the direct oil pipeline between Libya and Italy - the so-called "Green Stream" - has completely "dried up".

11:12am Al Jazeera has learned that two Serbian Boeing 737 jets have just taken off from Tripoli to evacuate around 300 Serbian citizens from Libya. They will land in Belgrade around 1 pm local time.

10:58am Recently posted videos give a sense of what it's like in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, during recent nights. Protesters attempt to mass in small groups in disparate neighbourhoods around the city and march toward Green Square, where they're confronted by armed security forces using live fire. In the first video, the protesters chant "The Libyans are here! Here, here, here!" and then "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is his prophet!"

9:09am Australia's ABC Radio phoned a man named Abdul in Tripoli this morning. He described "Black Africans" in army clothes driving around in jeeps; jets and helicopters circling the city (but not dropping bombs); and regime backers distributing guns to anyone who said they supported Gaddafi:

6:24am Wondering how videos and images of the revolt in Libya have managed to get out, despite a chokehold on communications lines out of the country? Time magazine reports that Libyans crossed the border to use the Internet in the Egyptian town of Marsa Matrouh, which became of the one "media centers" of the revolution.

From Tawfik al-Shaiby, a chemical engineer: "I went to Egypt every day to give (my brother) a flash disk full of media from Tobruk, al-Baida, Benghazi. They were videos from mobiles. Not just mine. We made copies, went to the Egyptian border at Salloum and gave it to someone there - my cousin's son - and he went to Matruh, where my brother was."

Time also quotes Gamal Shallouf, a marine biologist, who credited Al-Jazeera and Facebook for spreading news of nearby revolts in Egypt and Tunisia that Libyans would never have received before.

6:09am Omar Turbi, a Libyan-American businessman and commenter on Arab political affairs, tells Al Jazeera that those dismayed at the US response to the crisis in Libya should give Barack Obama some time.

"For God's sake, Reagan ... took three years before Poland was pushed over the edge and changed," he said. Just because the United States hasn't called for an end to Gaddafi's regime doesn't mean the Obama administration doesn't want to see it happen, he said. Officials are probably envisioning "nightmare" scenarios in which they make such a call and Gaddafi remains for six months or a year. Furthermore, Turbi said, many US citizens remain in the country waiting to be evacuated.

6:00am More evidence that suggests foreign troops are being used in Libya - or at least that Libyans believe this to be the case. This video of a dead man shows someone holding what appear to be identification documents, possibly a passport, that looks like it bears the name "Republique du Niger" and the country's coat of arms. There is no way to verify whether the man bore arms.

4:51am The first major evacuation vessel sponsored by the US Government is set to evacuate American citizens from Libya. Following is a Warden message by the American embassy in Tripoli:

A US Government chartered ferry will depart Tripoli from the As-shahab Port in central Tripoli, located on the sea road across from the Radisson Blu Mahari Hotel, for Valletta, Malta on Wednesday, February 23. Processing of passengers will begin promptly at 10:00am local time. US citizen travelers wishing to depart should proceed as soon as possible after 9:00am to the pier and arrive no later than 10:00am US citizens will be processed on a first-come, first-served basis, with priority given to persons with medical emergencies or severe medical conditions. The ferry will depart no later than 3:00pm. Travelers should bring valid travel documents and any necessary medications.

Each traveler may bring one suitcase and a small personal carry-on item.

1:55am: Peru becomes the first country to formally severe all diplomatic ties with Libya. President Alan Garcia said:

Peru is suspending all diplomatic relations with Libya until the violence against the people ceases.

Peru also strongly protests against the repression unleashed by the dictatorship of Muammar Gaddafi against the people who are demanding democratic reforms to change the government which has been led for 40 years by the same person.

1:50am: Know someone in Libya having problems getting online? Here's a handy pictoral guide, posted online, to setting up a proxy server in order to access the internet.

1:22am: Al Jazeera's Rawya Rageh says that all speakers in Libya's state TV press conference keep repeating that "assailants" and arrested men "are on hallucination pills". You can follow her at Twitter: @RawyaRageh

1:16am: Libyan official tells state TV they have arrested Tunisians, Egyptians and Algerians "trained to sow chaos".

1:14am: Uniformed Colonel now on Libyan state TV reciting poetry praising Gaddafi; describes him as "solid as Africa's dark mountains", tweets Al Jazeera's Rawya Rageh.

12:44am Libya's deputy UN ambassador says that Gaddafi's speech was code for his forces to start genocide against the Libyan people

12:40am Deputy Libyan ambassador emerges from UN discussions. This is significant, as the deputy has a radically different position to the pro-Gaddafi ambassador. We'll bring you all he has to say, live on our TV feed.

12:35am: A Libyan pilot - speaking from Switzerland - tells Al Jazeera he flew a plane load of mercenaries into Libya. He said he didn't realise what was happening at the time, but that the group were not speaking Arabic, but could hear them chanting verse. He urged his fellow pilots not to go to work and not to answer their phones. He said that, in the chaos of Tripoli, they would not be found. He said he was sure they and their families would be safe as the regime collapsed and lost power.

12:26am: Libyan government spokesman gives press conference outlining the vision of Gaddafi's eldest son, Saif al-Islam. Plans for reform include boosting payments to the unemployed. Also announces the formation of a committee to investigate events over the past couple of weeks. He says people "will be shocked by the extent of the distortion committed by Arab and foreign press and media.

The spokesman goes on to attack "the brothers in Qatar".

We used to respect the brothers in Qatar, but they have dedicated Al Jazeera to create lies and provocation on behalf of rich Egyptians who live in Qatar. This is unacceptable to us.

They were upset because President Gaddafi attacked the US president, who has bases inside Qatar. Their hope was to burn Libya, like they burned Tunisia and Egypt. But Libya is not Tunisia or Egypt - and we will remain strong.

As for Libyans who live abroad and are provoking Libyans at home to burn their country. We tell you to stop. You and your families are looking from abroad, waiting for instructions and low pay from your bosses.



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Yes, I'm thinking also a lot in the Libyan situation.
But I see as I'm new in this forum I need three most post to include links, wait a moment.
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The complete original post:
For me, is Aljazeera and the Islamist who are staging the unrest in the Muslim countries, keeping a very low profile for not scare the Western countries, as evidence is the absence of other actors (I only know US, UE and Israel are not staging the unrest. And my Moroccan friends/contacts says clearly the organizers are the Islamist).
I think when most time is passing, most probabilities Ghadaffie keeps in power.
Aljazeera is pressing for the overthrowing of Ghadaffi and forcing the news reports to say so, but clearly not a lot of eal news today:

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Plane carrying Ayse Gaddafi attempts to land but is forced to turn back after being denied permission.
Relatives fleeing?

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/af...25540203.html#

Al Jazeera informing about the Libya crisis in a blog ... from Qatar:

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Al Jazeera has read a copy of the doctoral dissertation of Saif Gaddafi, Muammar Gaddafi's son. The dissertation, on "The Role of Civil Society in the Democratisation of Global Governance Institutions" was submitted to the London School of Economics in 2007.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/africa/20...-libya-feb-23#

But, I insist, they are not real news, and without changes in the Libyan internal status-quo Gaddafi will keep in power, massacres or not massacres aside, the important issue (not for the victims and his relatives, of course) is the outcome the next few hours. Mubaraks resign to prevent a bloodbath in Egypt, but we known the inhuman nature of Gaddafi is from another nature ...

Meanwhile, in Yemen ....

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Yemen MPs resign over violence.
Seven parliamentarians quit ruling party to protest against what they say is government violence against demonstrators.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...12793183.html#
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My idea, more clearly exposed:
In this moment I think we are spectators of a media war.
The news are very scarce, and for me, if they are not a clear victory of the opossition in the next 48 hours (my intuitive limit is the next friday afternoon), Gadaffi will keep in charge (and when he dies, his sons ....).
About the media wars:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/wo...-m24libya.html

My idea is some media, as Al Jazeera, are doctoring news for support the opossition and the world opinion against Gadaffi, but they are not "real" news, I fear it's only a induced collective delusion, and the opossition to Gadaffi it's not improving his factual position for overthrow Gadaffi by the force (no doubts, for me Gadaffi is a narcissistic mad man, a proved terrorist, and the worst type of dictator, no doubting in kill openly his own people. But history tells us, as in the Tiananmen Square case, a dictatorship can prevail for years after shot openly against his own people in the streets).
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remember back when reagan bombed gadaffi's house after that disco tech bombing in germany in the 1980s?i remember reading way back then that it scared him so bad,he never slept in the same bed twice,and he took acid and lsd every day! looks like all that acid is starting to finally make him so mentally ill,he's unable to lead with the brutality he is known for.i'd be shocked if he did'nt put up one hell of a fight before he gets overthrown!
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My idea is some media, as Al Jazeera, are doctoring news for support the opossition and the world opinion against Gadaffi, but they are not "real" news,
I agree completely. I believe that Al Jazeera is trying to play kingmaker throughout the region. The problem is that, while they have the ability to stir up dissent, they don't have the ability to determine the outcomes. I suspect that the outcomes will not end up being the Al Jazeera chosen ones in many of these revolutions.
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remember back when reagan bombed gadaffi's house after that disco tech bombing in germany in the 1980s?i remember reading way back then that it scared him so bad,he never slept in the same bed twice,and he took acid and lsd every day! looks like all that acid is starting to finally make him so mentally ill,he's unable to lead with the brutality he is known for.i'd be shocked if he did'nt put up one hell of a fight before he gets overthrown!
I've seen three interviews with Gadhaffi in recent days and he definitely looked and sounded spaced out, drugged up...............seriously weird. Do we know for sure he takes acid? ('Acid' and LSD - lysergic acid diethylamide, are the same by the way.)

More from Al Jazeera:

1:48am: Aisha, Gaddafi's daughter, has appeared on state television, denying a report she tried to flee to Malta. "I am steadfastly here," she said. She added she was unaware of a report she had been dropped by the United Nations as a goodwill ambassador.

1:14: In the eastern city of Benghazi, cradle of the uprising and home to tribes long hostile to Gaddafi, thousands filled the streets, lighting fireworks and waving the red, black and green flag of the king Colonel Muammar Gaddafi overthrew in 1969, accoding to Reuters news agency.

1:31am: The U.N. Development Program has dropped Libyan leader's Muammar Gaddafi's daughter as a goodwill ambassador.

1:24am: According to Marwan Bishara, Al Jazeera's political analysts, the Libyan leader has lost all three pillars of his rule - tribal, military and diplomatic. Judging from his desperate speech last night, he seems to be losing his mind and perhaps his nerves.


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I agree completely. I believe that Al Jazeera is trying to play kingmaker throughout the region. The problem is that, while they have the ability to stir up dissent, they don't have the ability to determine the outcomes. I suspect that the outcomes will not end up being the Al Jazeera chosen ones in many of these revolutions.
I don't know what the political intentions, if any, of Al Jazeera are but they have been very effective in getting the information out. They've just put this rather interesting graphic on their blog. Notice the only non Arab country in the graphic.



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From my post in other forum:
And sadly supporting my previous viewpoint, I fear:

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Mohammed Ali Abdullah, deputy leader of the National Front for the Salvation of Libya, a leading exile group, said he was concerned that the parts of the army that had defected had shown no sign of willingness themselves to take the revolution on.
"We aren't seeing the army's different brigades trying to reinforce themselves to take on the Khamis Brigade and the mercenaries," he said.
"There has been a lot of disappointment with the role of the army that has defected - it has defected and then sat down to watch."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rd-fight.html#
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At last some real news, Al Jazeera supporting the possible new Libyan Government:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/af...915408866.html

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Aujali, a veteran Libyan diplomat, praised Abdel Jalil.
"He is a very honest man. He was in charge of the justice issue in the eastern part of Libya when the regime asked him to hang an innocent Libyan citizen and he refused," Aujali said.
I remember in Spain, a lot of years ago, that was not an realistic answer against Franco rule (Or against the Gadaffi desires, in our case), you as Judge perhaps can don't condemn a person, but you must reseign your official job.
I think that description of Abdel Jalil as an honest man can be something untrue ...
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I don't know what the political intentions, if any, of Al Jazeera are but they have been very effective in getting the information out. They've just put this rather interesting graphic on their blog. Notice the only non Arab country in the graphic.



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"kingmaker" is probably making more out of it than it is. right now the best sources for news on the middle east is Twitter or Al Jazeera. The american news outlets are barely covering the middle east uprisings outside of Egypt and libya now. Al Jazeera out of all the other news outlet has the most coverage. Admittedly its all skewed to the side of the opposition but who wants to hear a newscast thats pro-dictatorship?

Once you get passed the political spin all the news outlets worldwide are putting out the same info on these uprisings. most of them are getting it from twitter or the few journalists that are actually on the ground in Libya. i now that al jazeera has a guy and CNN may have a guy.

Have the media outlets starting mentioning the protests have started again in tehran? The just started mentioning Oman. At this point the best news coming on these revolutions is definitely coming from twitter. mostly from people in these countries tweeting or the news outlets regurgitating whatever tidbits once they've been fact checked. best part of twitter is at 140 characters per tweet there is no room for political spin just the facts.

If you decide to check out twitter search for SOG. stands for sea of green which is what the iranians are calling their revolution. also one of the guys tweeting in iran is organizing the demonstration in tehran. he uses the SOG hashtag.

trust me news is far more intense when the guy telling you about it just saw it happen in front of him.
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Perhaps another player in Libya was or is Iran, don't forget to read the comments:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/breakin...ases-in-libya/
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Al Jazeera has more Arabic speaking journalists than any other international network. That probably has something to do with it.
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