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View Poll Results: Who would win?
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Tempest
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03 Feb 11, 06:02
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WW2 Dogfight Grand Final: Hawker Tempest vs. North American P-51 Mustang
It's the Grand Final: who will be crowned the champion Second World War fighter aircraft?
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03 Feb 11, 06:11
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03 Feb 11, 08:45
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Well........ Mustang.
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03 Feb 11, 11:09
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This one is tough. The Mustang is marginally faster, with a much higher ceiling. The Tempest on the other hand has a much greater rate of climb, and much more devastating firepower. Relative agility being an unknown, at least by me, I'm going to have to ignore the Mustang's ceiling advantage (they would both have to be at near level altitudes to engage in combat) and the clear winner then becomes the Tempest.
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03 Feb 11, 11:32
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It's always hard to compare mid-war to late war design. I like both aircraft. I have no nationality per see to invoke as I am a dual national (English-American) so proud of both nations aircraft. I'm going to have to think more on this. If it was a matter of historical significance than Mustang runs away. Technologically speaking the Tempest is superior as it should be, but not as great a leap as one might imagine. Tough call.
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03 Feb 11, 11:35
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Then again, he who has the height advantage dictates the terms of the battle...
Ah well, I've voted already. I'm not unhappy with my choice, I'm just not as confident as I would like, much like the P-51/Spitfire contest.
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03 Feb 11, 11:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Richter
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Shocker.....  I voted for the best dogfighter ever. 
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03 Feb 11, 12:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Catman
This one is tough. The Mustang is marginally faster, with a much higher ceiling. The Tempest on the other hand has a much greater rate of climb, and much more devastating firepower. Relative agility being an unknown, at least by me, I'm going to have to ignore the Mustang's ceiling advantage (they would both have to be at near level altitudes to engage in combat) and the clear winner then becomes the Tempest.
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My reasoning exactly. Voted for the Tempest. Would be nice to see a WWII fighter other than the Mustang win a dogfighting contest/poll for once. Not that the P-51 wasn't a great plane, but it sometimes gets overrated a bit IMHO.
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03 Feb 11, 13:04
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Originally Posted by 101combatvet
Shocker..... I voted for the best dogfighter ever.
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So you voted Spitfire earlier  ?
Since this thread is about dogfighting I had to vote Tempest, albeit the P51 had a much greater impact on WW2.
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03 Feb 11, 19:29
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So you voted Spitfire earlier ?
Since this thread is about dogfighting I had to vote Tempest, albeit the P51 had a much greater impact on WW2. |
The Tempest doesn't even make the list of top fighters. |
03 Feb 11, 21:03
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No doubt in my mind that the P-51 takes this matchup.
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03 Feb 11, 23:00
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Someone had better start finding some British posters to vote for the Tempest! The P-51 is just better.
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04 Feb 11, 00:39
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P-51, 'nuff said. 
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04 Feb 11, 03:14
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Originally Posted by 101combatvet
The Tempest doesn't even make the list of top fighters. |
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04 Feb 11, 03:17
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Originally Posted by Pruitt
Someone had better start finding some British posters to vote for the Tempest! The P-51 is just better.
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 I think our lads have got a bit fed up of voting in a rigged ballot!
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I voted for the Hawker Tempest because it and I are both English. 
