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Thank you for your consideration, Jeff! I guess things have to take their course and Internet forums are no exception. I'd like you to know that if I got elected POTUS the first thing I'd order is to have your name engraved on a wall in the Oval Office as the first endorser ever.

Back to the picture, it's Colonel Andre Sauvageot, US Army, Ret., the longest serving American in Vietnam (1964-1973).
AHA. that does something to explain the very strange look in his eyes.......
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Definitely among one of the longest serving Americans in Vietnam. I'm sure there are a few hotel managers and other such administrative personnel who had as much, and perhaps more time in country. In 1968 the NCO managing the Meyerkord hotel (for USO shows) had been in Vietnam since 1962 and already had Vietnamese family.

Some sources list Sauvageau as a Special Forces officer, but he is not on any 5th SFG document. Others list him as an Airborne, Ranger, Infantry officer in 1964, which would put him on the Regular Army list of the period. Not sure how good his memory is, or how capable Woods or others who interview him are of understanding what's said. In the Arkansas Tech document, the author has Sauvageau demanding 'command' of a Ranger Battalion in 1964, when there were only Vietnamese ranger battalions. No American commanded Vietnamese units. Rather they were the advisors to the Vietnamese commander. Their role often involved coordinating U.S. artillery and close air support for the unit, far more than giving the unit commander advice on how to run his battalion, regiment, or brigade.

Currently he appears to be an inveterate letter to the editor writer, weighing in on such topics as gays in the military, climate change, Chinese expansionism, etc. topics. Given that, I'm surprised we haven't seen him on this forum.

I do respect the fact that in 1964-65 he was already sounding off on his view that the war, at its heart, was a Vietnamese matter that could only be resolved by Vietnamese. Left unsaid is any view on foreign support's role in this family squabble. Those tanks entering the Presidential Palace in 1975 were neither built nor crewed by Southern peasants.
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Found this doing the rounds on Tumblr, the lovely Kim Novak (or at least someone who looks like Miss Novak) as photographed by Paris Match Photographer Jean-Claude Sauer, in 1962 (?)


Anyhow its a well composed photograph, the faces in the crowd are interesting to try and read.



I was trying to do some more research on Sauer, and found this interesting image, interesting what happened to this M-14, haven't seen that before...



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You get a new surprise every day. This looks like an American Bow, typical laminated 1970's recurve that you could buy in any shop. Could be made in the field but I doubt it, I'd say the fellow in the pic had it deliberately brought from home for the express purpose of using it. Anyone ever seen this before or know the history behind the shot. I found it on Tumblr, and as usual,there are no facts to go with the story.



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An ancient weapon deployed in a modern counterinsurgency war: A US Navy lieutenant, serving with the Riverine Navy during the Vietnam War, aims his flaming arrow at a hut across the river that conceals a Viet Cong bunker.
I found this on the Internet, and also in a book I own.



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The history surrounding Don Sheppard is incorrect. Don was actually the Commander of RIVRON 5, Section 51, part of Task Force 116.1, the most decorated unit in Viet Nam. Don did not usually participate in patrols.
Every time he was on my boat PBR-39 was for a photo op. One time he was on the cover of the Navy Times with a flaming arrow starting hutches on fire with this primative device...bull...the guy not in the picture was behind me using a flame thrower, starting the fires. This is one of several instances for photo ops, the rest I will not indicate.
Ource: http://www.amazon.fr/Riverine-Brown-.../dp/0891414258
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I was trying to do some more research on Sauer, and found this interesting image, interesting what happened to this M-14, haven't seen that before...
Chukka, That's not an M-14. It's an M-2 carbine with a folding "wire" stock. Since the stock is not visible, it may have been removed. That little round thingy just behind the barrel breach on the stock above the 30 round magazine is the automatic selector switch.
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You get a new surprise every day. This looks like an American Bow, typical laminated 1970's recurve that you could buy in any shop.
When it comes to archery warfare, PAVN sure maintained supremacy in caliber over US forces.



A large, bamboo crossbow device used by Viet Cong forces during the Vietnam War, 29th November 1965. Armed with an eight-foot long spear, the device was positioned near a jungle clearing, and was intended for use against low-flying or landing helicopters. (Photo by Keystone/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
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Chukka, That's not an M-14. It's an M-2 carbine with a folding "wire" stock. Since the stock is not visible, it may have been removed. That little round thingy just behind the barrel breach on the stock above the 30 round magazine is the automatic selector switch.
Yep, I had a mental picture of the carbine (Nat Geo Cover Jan 1965 to be exact) but between the Brain and Keyboard it all went pear shaped.

I have found a few more examples of Carbines with the stocks removed, but as is become all too common, precious little info on the pics.

http://www.patriotfiles.com/gallery/...php?photo=4324


http://www.reddit.com/r/GunPorn/comm...ring_a_patrol/





According to the link below, (the modern equivalent of 'Some guy I met in a pub') the fellow above could be involved with " B Company 1/50. 1970."

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...sonal-weapons/

from the same thread;


Sold Back in the US under the name 'The Enforcer!'


Lastly one pic that is definitely NOT from Vietnam
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When it comes to archery warfare, PAVN sure maintained supremacy in caliber over US forces.



A large, bamboo crossbow device used by Viet Cong forces during the Vietnam War, 29th November 1965. Armed with an eight-foot long spear, the device was positioned near a jungle clearing, and was intended for use against low-flying or landing helicopters. (Photo by Keystone/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
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A few weeks ago the Royal Australian Navy's new submarine support ship from Damen-Schelde (Netherlands) was launched at the Vietnamese MoD's owned Z189 shipyard in Hai Phong:

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A familiar object for those who lived in the North during the war.
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President Ho Chi Minh & MoD Giap and military advisors from 12 Warsaw Pact-countries


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Officials from CSKA Moscow - Soviet Army's Central Sport Club - bid farewell to PAVN officials at the train-station.

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PRC's PLA army-choir entertains the visiting DRV's PAVN officers.


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Handlers from East-Germany's MoD and the visiting PAVN officers.

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PAVN's Army sport-club's athletes on a visit to China.


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PAVN officers, who are attending the Hungarian People's Army academy.






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Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces's Sport Club's soccer-players after a match against their PAVN counter-part.
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