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You'd think that given how we were both former British colonies, with a democratic tradition, we'd be better allies.
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One could make an argument that the "British" descendents in the US have kept control of the country. In India the natives have the country. That is a big difference!

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Plus India is a democracy and their peoples' enjoy free speech. (and in English- usually).
That has to be worth something.
Indian "democracy". Their government is so corrupt to call the democratic is insulting,
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Indian "democracy". Their government is so corrupt to call the democratic is insulting,
Which makes it unusual in what way, exactly?
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How is the government in Iowa any better? Texas, Louisiana, Illinois, the list is pretty much 50 states long. The only thing different with India is the many languages there.

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Which makes it unusual in what way, exactly?
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Which makes it unusual in what way, exactly?
Its more bureacratic than the US that speaks volumes.
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Its more bureacratic than the US that speaks volumes.
Is it?
Well, so is the EU, Russis, and a host of others.
I see that as a symptom of the decay and decline of the Global civilization, and the rate of over-bureaucratization is speeding up at a geometric rate.

I'm seeing a lot of people posting here who seem to think that good relations between the US and India is a terrible thing.
Why, exactly?
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I'm seeing a lot of people posting here who seem to think that good relations between the US and India is a terrible thing.
Why, exactly?
I am a strong advocate of improved relations that in the future lead to better military ties.
Our threats and areas of streategic importance have shifted from Eastern Europe to China and Islamic terror-the same threats India faces. Despite all its shortcomings India has been a stable democracy with no history of coups, military takeovers or government sponsored massacares or pogroms.

We are finding it increasingly difficult to foot our large military bill. India has a robust, professional military with a human rights record about the same as our Nato allies and far better than the fruitcakes we associate with outside of Europe and Japan who often give us a bad rep.

India does have a left leaning segment in its political spectrum that tries to throw a wrench whenever there is talk of military cooperation but the new generation of politicians that are gradually rplacing the old guard has a strong pro U.S sentiment.

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I am a strong advocate of improved relations that in the future lead to better military ties.
Our threats and areas of streategic importance have shifted from Eastern Europe to China and Islamic terror-the same threats India faces. Despite all its shortcomings India has been a stable democracy with no history of coups, military takeovers or government sponsored massacares or pogroms.

We are finding it increasingly difficult to foot our large military bill. India has a robust, professional military with a human rights record about the same as our Nato allies and far better than the fruitcakes we associate with outside of Europe and Japan who often give us a bad rep.

India does have a left leaning segment in its political spectrum that tries to throw a wrench whenever there is talk of military cooperation but the new generation of politicians that are gradually replacing the old guard has a strong pro U.S sentiment.

I think India is a good ally to have. They have issues with corruption, but so does all other countries. I have seen much improvement and am confident they will find their way eventually.

I work with and have friends who immigrated from India and I see that they truly like the U.S. and want to follow our lead. They mean us no harm.
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I think India is a good ally to have. They have issues with corruption, but so does all other countries. I have seen much improvement and am confident they will find their way eventually.

I work with and have friends who immigrated from India and I see that they truly like the U.S. and want to follow our lead. They mean us no harm.
But... Don't you find it a bit odd when someone makes judgement of a whole nation's attitude based on a statistically small group of people who've emigrated?
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But... Don't you find it a bit odd when someone makes judgement of a whole nation's attitude based on a statistically small group of people who've emigrated?
That's in addition to other sources of info...I would never make a judgement like that from one source.

I find it impressive that even in India, many choose to speak English rather than Hindi.
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Persephone,

There are hundreds of Languages in India. I believe the two official ones are Urdu and English. Speaking English instead of Bengali or Tamil might be a bit of showing a higher Caste, or just plain snobbery. Remember the British Raj preferred doing its business in English.

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I thought the official languages of India are Hindi and English...my bad.
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This is a cool language map of India...


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