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Japan lies on the Ring of Fire, an arc of earthquake and volcanic zones stretching around the Pacific where about 90% of the world’s quakes occur.

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Maximum wave amplitudes: Filled colors show maximum computed tsunami amplitude in cm during 24 hours of wave propagation. (AFP Photo/NOAA)

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I see Crescent City in Northern California got hit and is in the news... 35 boats smashed and one guy got swept away, despite a half-day warning.

That place is about 90 miles from me.
Here's a bit of trivia for you; the Indian name for that place means "You can't live there."
And this is why, it's a natural funnel for tsunamis.

oops....
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If I recall, the Alaska Quake took out somewhere around 21 blocks of Crescent City when I was little, 1964 I think...

I've got quite a few expat friends in Japan & I've only seen signs of one...

I'm sure they have more important things to worry than to respond...

God willing, they all will.
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I see Crescent City in Northern California got hit and is in the news... 35 boats smashed and one guy got swept away, despite a half-day warning.

That place is about 90 miles from me.
Here's a bit of trivia for you; the Indian name for that place means "You can't live there."
And this is why, it's a natural funnel for tsunamis.

oops....
And the knucklehead that got swept away was this week's winner of the Darwin Awards.
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NHK is now reporting that the external walls of the building that houses the reactor at Fukushima nuclear plant appear to have been blown off.
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I have been following this on RT

An explosion has occurred, there is white smoke coming out of the reactor, a wall and the roof of the reactor has collapsed. Chernobyl veterans are seeing similarities.
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From PAT-Proteus. (Gary/Marc et al)

We've been working on (preventing) stuff like this (in the explosion) for over 2 years.

In simple terms its the reaction of the water on being supra-heated by the exposed fuel rods. This gives both a hydrogen based explosion combined with a shockwave of super-expanding explosive steam.

This seems to have blown out the walls of the containment building. The concern now is if a Chernobyl type fire begins, because the combustive oxidation that resulted would then spread radioactive particles if the rods were exposed to the fire.

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I think they're trying to downplay this. The video shows that the reactor building has been destroyed by the explosion.
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As to the explosion itself, I would suggest the following.

1. The coolant system failed and so the reactor rods may start over (heating/reacting) if still partially exposed, rather than in the normal (fail) safe position.

2. The coolant system although failed, still might have the actual coolant water exposed to the fuel rods, and this would produce a continual supply of partially radioactive steam.

3. The Japanese teams there have said they have vented this steam a few times. This is because the containment buildings themselves can hold a maximum pressure, after which steam (has) to be vented to stop them failing.

4. From the film and timescale, I would suggest that an accident occured while trying to repair/restart the coolant system, with the intent to cool the rod overheating.

5. The failure probably caused too little coolant to be applied to the overheated rods, and this led to the explosion.

6. The situation now may be overheating fuel rods exposed to the open air atmosphere. If thats the case, then standard proceedure would be to cover the whole reactor are with mass sand/graphite air drops to isolate the rods and stop the overheating. Once thats done they would apply large concrete drops to envelope the whole building interior.

7. (6) would be either relatively or extremely hazardous according to whether the rods were on fire on not.

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Korean news just had a scientist on predicting lot of earthquakes for the next ten years or so. My wife didn't interpret the whole thing for me, but I think he's referring to the current closeness of the moon. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
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Deathtoll is 1,300 so far and thousands still missing
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I think you are talking about this prediction by Kit Karson, an reknowned psychic, concerning a phenomenon known as ‘Super-Moon’. She predicted the possibility for “extreme” weather, earthquakes, tsunamis, natural disasters, even some sort of major economic shock.

With the ‘Super-Moon’ peak period still to come, between March 19-22, it ain't over yet.

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This Super Moon will occur on March 19 when it is in its closest position to the earth this year. This one happens to be a full Moon, so it is time to prepare now. Full Moons in general can cause havoc, and this one for sure will not go unnoticed by anyone.

Get ready for what could be moderate to severe weather patterns, increased seismic activity, tsunamis and more volcanic eruptions than normal. This phenomenon includes the days leading up to March 19 and the days after until around March 22nd.

We experienced extreme weather conditions under the last Super Moons in 1955, 1974, 1992 and 2005. Hurricane Katrina is one example which happened in 2005 under a Super Moon’s influence. The moon has such a strong gravitational pull on the earth it can control the tides and under certain conditions causes extra strong tidal patters.

The well known astrologer, Richard Nolle coined the phrase, Super Moon and he is predicting just such occurrences this March in particular and could continue into April of this year. The Moon exerts gravitational pull on the earth and the closer it is, the more influence it has. Super Moon’s have a particularly strong pull on the earth because they are much closer to the earth during these phases.

This March may prove to be one of the worst months for severe weather and seismic activity yet this year. This may be because the Moon has not been this close to the earth in 18 years. The coastal regions should prepare for especially strong and high tides.

This will be the second of three Super Moons this year. One occurred in February, again in March and April. These three months should mark a noticeable change in earth activity, along with gas leaks or explosions and earthquakes. Get your camera out because this particular Super Moon will appear extremely large at it rises after the sun sets, because it will be the closest one of the year.

Just after the Super Moon, get ready for more financial concerns world-wide, especially the European bond market, an increase in oil and gas disruptions and the price of everything going up and into panic mode. Many power outages are likely to occur, especially if earthquakes hit densely populated areas. Stock markets may also be in for a wild ride.

http://www.psychiccosmos.com/blog/in...ther-patterns/
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Deathtoll is 1,300 so far and thousands still missing
One city alone has 9500 missing.
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I think you are talking about this prediction by Kit Karson, an reknowned psychic, concerning a phenomenon known as ‘Super-Moon’. She predicted the possibility for “extreme” weather, earthquakes, tsunamis, natural disasters, even some sort of major economic shock.

With the ‘Super-Moon’ peak period still to come, between March 19-22, it ain't over yet.
Never heard of Karson, I'm basing it on the location of the moon and the effect scientists expect it to have on tides, etc.

The scientist was a Korean, not Karson.
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Never heard of Karson, I'm basing it on the location of the moon and the effect scientists expect it to have on tides, etc.

The scientist was a Korean, not Karson.
They got it from Karson's prediction. Everyone is talking about Karson's prediction being "spot on" now.

That's probably what they were reporting yesterday on the Korean news. I heard a similar report from a Chinese news source.
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