Super Bowl XLVII ~ New Orleans

[D1J1]

Still claptrap Paul. You continue to attack the sport without addressing the people. Saying a ball or ball game causes the problem is like saying guns kill people.

It isn't the object you play with or the game, it is the people. You have done nothing to prove that non-ball sports would be in any different situation if society did not provide them the same financial and social rewards the give ball sports.

Since you provided one example of a ball sport person acting badly, how about 10 from non-ball sports?!

http://www.thefix.com/content/olympi...ng90411#slide9

I know we could continue this into eternity, but my citation above does prove that the folks you seem to think are somehow above the activities of the ball players are in reality no different.

Regards,
Dennis

[Paul Mann III]

BS. I love the sports. I played football and baseball, proudly.

My baseball team was undefeated for two years.

Doesn't change the culture of excusal for talented jocks.

And 10 from other sports? Hell, there'll be 10 ball players in trouble just this week. Bums, all of 'em.

And I provided more than one. The dope dealer, the wife killer, and the gun-totin thug. Then again, that's a fair description for dozens of them...

And how about the ones rape women or abandon kids (all of them)?

[D1J1]

Originally Posted by Paul Mann III

BS. I love the sports. I played football and baseball, proudly.

My baseball team was undefeated for two years.

Doesn't change the culture of excusal for talented jocks.

And 10 from other sports? Hell, there'll be 10 ball players in trouble just this week. Bums, all of 'em.

And I provided more than one. The dope dealer, the wife killer, and the gun-totin thug. Then again, that's a fair description for dozens of them...

And how about the ones rape women or abandon kids (all of them)?

Sorry, you gave 3. On the section I put in bold I do agree with you because the focus is on the actions of the people and not the device involved in a sport. It isn't that culture but OUR culture.

Lets look at the dope dealers/users, wife killers and gun-totin' thugs in boxing for example. The acme of that sport is gone, but the actions of those involved during the period it had and continue to have the same high degree of criminal conduct as you ascribe to ball sports.

My hands would cramp up if I were to begin a list of offenders and their crimes from the "manly art of self defense."

But, it seems you think the situation would not exist if wrestling, judo or whatever non-ball sport was in the same situation. I think not and that is my point.

Given the societal and monetary rewards and culture of excusal, as you aptly phrased it, the situation would be no different regardless of the sport or any activity. The same situation exists in all fields of popular entertainment. They ain't playing with balls in those rackets, at least not as part of the performance!

Regards,
Dennis

[Paul Mann III]

Originally Posted by D1J1

Sorry, you gave 3. On the section I put in bold I do agree with you because the focus is on the actions of the people and not the device involved in a sport. It isn't that culture but OUR culture.

Lets look at the dope dealers/users, wife killers and gun-totin' thugs in boxing for example. The acme of that sport is gone, but the actions of those involved during the period it had and continue to have the same high degree of criminal conduct as you ascribe to ball sports.

My hands would cramp up if I were to begin a list of offenders and their crimes from the "manly art of self defense."

But, it seems you think the situation would not exist if wrestling, judo or whatever non-ball sport was in the same situation. I think not and that is my point.

Given the societal and monetary rewards and culture of excusal, as you aptly phrased it, the situation would be no different regardless of the sport or any activity. The same situation exists in all fields of popular entertainment. They ain't playing with balls in those rackets, at least not as part of the performance!

Regards,
Dennis

Please, show me a brief list of Olympic martial artists who have caught with a ton of dope or killed their wife and got away with it in court or fathered 10 kids by 9 mothers.

Or for that matter, which of them have busted for PED used still get to compete.

Or even which ones have been bailed out legal jams by attorneys provided by their 'league.'

Show me the ones that have been given a pass their whole life based on their sport, from beating up other kids in the playground to getting caught with a bad UA or failing grades but they still get to play, the one who knocked up some chick in high school and the coach arranged the abortion to maintain legible play, he ones who get sports cars provided by the college alumni and ball-boosters...

No comparison in culture or behavior. None.

Ball handlers are a bunch of spoiled rotten children who get away with eveything.