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American Revolution 1763-1789 The birth of a new nation - to commence at the Proclaimation of 1763 to the end of the Articles of Confederation.

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French alliance
Substantial support in the House of Commons in the UK for the rebels
British army was a pretty small organisation
London government was not that committed to victory and lacked war aims
French alliance
The Americans were morally right which must count for something
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If ever there was a case of victory because one side wanted it more than the other it was this war.
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French alliance
Substantial support in the House of Commons in the UK for the rebels
British army was a pretty small organisation
London government was not that committed to victory and lacked war aims
French alliance
The Americans were morally right which must count for something
French alliance
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But what were the Americas then?
Was it just a huge beatiful untamed land whose future prowess and potential riches could not have been known at that time?
Dare I say it.............Perhaps not worth the effort of maintaining,garrisoning and administrating?
I believe the Brits didn't effectively fight for it simply because they were stretched to the limit elsewhere.
I also suspect that if they had really been determined the "Continental" and the French army would not have stopped them.
Plus,the Americans were just like us,we considered ourselves smarter than everybody else but how could we think that of the Yanks who spoke the same language and had the same religions and morals and a lot of them were even born in GB..........They can't possibly be the enemy..Can they?
I know that I would have been loathe to fight them when I was in the army,not because of any disparity in size but simply 'cos it wouldn't have been "right".
This must have had some effect on the British soldiers willingness to fight as well as he did against "lesser" peoples.
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In this period, all of the Western Hemisphere revolutions were successful because it was not possible to successfully prosecute a war against an organized foe that controlled the hinterland. The American Revolution was the closest one of these wars, but there are factors as to why: Substantial number of loyalists, not all decided by class or race (as in the Caribbean and Central/South America). Early British control of major cities. The importance of the colonies to Britain.

On that last point: there was a reason the War of 1812 became what it was. It is overlooked, but that was the real war that set America as a truly independent country. The invasion of Canada was an obvious failure, but the British plan to move up the Mississippi was intended to be the decisive blow in a war to retake the Americas. And why shouldn't they? From their perspective, we had already taken loans from the Bank of England that we had originally declared independence from.
Also, without the War of 1812, it is unlikely we never would have developed a standing army that was worth anything.
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The invasion of Canada was an obvious failure, but the British plan to move up the Mississippi was intended to be the decisive blow in a war to retake the Americas. And why shouldn't they? From their perspective, we had already taken loans from the Bank of England that we had originally declared independence from.
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Do you have any sources at all for the claim that the UK sought to retake the Americas? Having read several books on the subject it seems really obvious that your claim is totally untrue there was never any inclination for the UK to recapture the USA. It should be noted that it was the USA that declared war on Britain, not the other way round.
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