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Question Parallel Universes - Yeh or Nay

“There is no one reality. Each of us lives in a separate universe. That's not speaking metaphorically. This is the hypothesis of the stark nature of reality suggested by recent developments in quantum physics. Reality in a dynamic universe is non-objective. Consciousness is the only reality.” Professor M. R. Franks



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Physical cosmology points to three possibilities to explain the "fine tuning" of our Universe:

1) A Multiverse of an infinite number of parallel universes.

2) God.

3) Top-Down Cosmology... The Universe is as it is because it is observed.
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Well, maybe not in your universe... but in mine I printed this article out, cut it into neat little strips and went and bought 3 dozen donuts with it.



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If each of us lives in our own universe, interaction with others who observe the same phenomena would not/could not occur.

Strike One.

If there were a superior being who created everything, it would have to have evolved such vast powers and capabilities over vast amounts of time; therefore it would not have been in existence at Creation, and so could not have been the root cause. Dawkins, paraphrased.

Strike Two.

Saying that the universe is formed by our observations is a twisted and distorted form of logic that has little to no place in reality. What we observe is what is, period. The shadow logic that says that by observing something, we change that something is only sustainable if it can be absolutely proven that we did, in fact, change it and can prove what it was before and the process by which that change took place. It also fails to take into account observation by other species which conflict with our observations. Therefore, the Universe/Cosmos - the real term is, in fact, Cosmos - is what it is regardless of our presence, and will remain so after we are gone.

Strike Three.

Are there parallel universes. Maybe, maybe not. We are in no way equipped at the moment to observe such phenomena or to intelligently interpret such observations. Frankly, however, I doubt is, since the energy involved has to come from somewhere. Additionally, parallel cosmos would mean multiple Creators to the God crowd, and that would be not only unacceptable, but totally devastating.
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If there are an infinite amount of 1 dimensions in a 2 dimensional object, and an infinite number of 2 dimensions in a 3 dimensional object, wouldn't there be an infinite number of 3 dimensions in a 4 dimensional object?

We are told there are more than 3 dimensions so that would mean an infinite amount of 3 dimension? Is that logical? More importantly is that right?
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If there are an infinite amount of 1 dimensions in a 2 dimensional object, and an infinite number of 2 dimensions in a 3 dimensional object, wouldn't there be an infinite number of 3 dimensions in a 4 dimensional object?

We are told there are more than 3 dimensions so that would mean an infinite amount of 3 dimension? Is that logical? More importantly is that right?
Mathematically speaking, there are an infinite number of dimensions.

Physical evidence only exists for four dimensions: Three spatial and one temporal.
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Mathematically speaking, there are an infinite number of dimensions.

Physical evidence only exists for four dimensions: Three spatial and one temporal.
One question though; isn't most evidence in theoretical physics mathematical in nature (something that quite ironically; a chemist my biologist uncle in law dislikes despite chemistry being a highly math intensive field) because I remember an astrophysicist (one who was rather critical of superstring and m-theory that I met on a science forum) telling me that the existence of tachyons was nowhere near as certain as the existence of higgs bosons since the currently accepted mathematical models did not require their existence. And that in theoretical physics, since physical observation requires expensive and complicated devices, it is imperative to see that the math allows for it's existence before checking for physical evidence. While I find theoretical physics distressingly confusing (the math makes even my economically geared mind cringe in fear and many of the ideas that get tossed around in that field are quite frankly beyond me) that fact is one thing I do know for certain about the field.

And aren't dimensions and universes different things? I remember said astrophysicist being rather unhappy whenever anyone used the term dimension to refer to a universe. Of course; he was also rather unhappy when people referred to time as the physical fourth dimension.
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Mathematically speaking, there are an infinite number of dimensions.

Physical evidence only exists for four dimensions: Three spatial and one temporal.
The Physical Evidence bit is the limitation - but this only goes with our narrow and confined experience.
Our perceptions and comprehensions are constrained to only three linear directions ( dimensions ? ) of the Spatial Dimension, and one in the Temperal Dimension. By my reckoning - that makes two Dimensions - Spatial and Temporal, only one being fully percieved.

If there was physical evidence for a multitude of Dimensions - then we may just be completely unable to "see" or percieve it ( the physical evidence ), and totally unable to comprehend it.

A two-dimensional lifeform ( not sure how that would be possible ) would "see" all of our world as simply two dimensional in the Spatial Dimension, even though we can see it is otherwise.
Such a lifeform will see all our technological devices - and the things and "evidence" which "prove" the existence of three Spatial dimensions, as only two, and only providing "proof" of the existence of two.

Some more omniscient lifeforms may see the Temporal Dimension in more than one direction ( dimension ? ) - able to look back and forth along the timelines which define our individual personal existences, and also "sideways" into other Parallel timelines ( Probablities ?? ) - which is my viewpoint of the concept of Parallel Universes.

Maybe a Creater ( your choice if there is one ), can see backwards and forwards, "sideways", and at right angles to both those directions - plus maybe loads of other Dimensions.
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11 dimensions I heard, but that may be different types .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory

This is the BBC's take on parallel universes.



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