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Old 14 Oct 15, 20:09
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The "Red Baron" in Rare Film

Rare film of Manfred von Richthofen (the Red Baron) and his Fokker Tri-plane. At the end is one of his victories, a Sopwith biplane shot down in September 1917 as well as the British pilot (mustache) who miraculously was captured unharmed.

Very interesting to see what appears to be a mechanic spraying oil into each cylinder prior to starting and the clothing worn in the open cockpit

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Rare film of Manfred von Richthofen (the Red Baron) and his Fokker Tri-plane. At the end is one of his victories, a Sopwith biplane shot down in September 1917 as well as the British pilot (mustache) who miraculously was captured unharmed.

Very interesting to see what appears to be a mechanic spraying oil into each cylinder prior to starting and the clothing worn in the open cockpit

Fascinating, thanks for posting!
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Where is the sound??

Thanks for that. Even the propaganda film back then was gentlemanly!
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You have to remember that rotary engines were lubricated with castor oil and it went everywhere. Many pilots suffered from stomach and other ailments due to ingesting it while flying during this period. What the mechanic is doing is making sure there is plenty initially on start up.
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You have to remember that rotary engines were lubricated with castor oil and it went everywhere. Many pilots suffered from stomach and other ailments due to ingesting it while flying during this period. What the mechanic is doing is making sure there is plenty initially on start up.
hell my mother used to make me take castor oil..... said it was for my own good???
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hell my mother used to make me take castor oil..... said it was for my own good???
That's why you have huge incisors,don't look further
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hell my mother used to make me take castor oil..... said it was for my own good???
Yup! It helped your wheels run well on the carpet

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Ye Gods!

Was that none other than HERMANN GOERING at just past the three minute mark?

I think the man with the little mustache was Rudolf Bechtold.

The man standing to his right also has a Pour Le Merite, so could it be Goering himself?

I might be wrong of course...and get shot down....
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Whilst castor oil was the lubricant for rotary engines what the mechanic will be doing is priming each cylinder with petrol (gas) before start up which had to be done with rotaries. A interesting account of an American squadron reported that mechanics had taken to filling fire extinguishers with petrol to make priming easier but this was ordered to stop when a mechanic grabbed an extinguisher to put out a small fire in a hanger. It turned out to be one filled with petrol and a small fire became a big fire destroying a number of aircraft.!
Castor oil was a loss lubricant - ie it did not re circulate inside the engine but was sprayed out after passing through the cylinder. The Germans had big problems as they had a shortage of castor oil and although ersatz products were developed they were never as good and engines often seized up in flight.
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Whilst castor oil was the lubricant for rotary engines what the mechanic will be doing is priming each cylinder with petrol (gas) before start up which had to be done with rotaries.
Yes. Absolutely correct.

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