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Muslims found Americas before Columbus says Turkey's Erdogan

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Muslims discovered the Americas more than three centuries before Christopher Columbus, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said.

He made the claim during a conference of Latin American Muslim leaders in Istanbul, pointing to a diary entry in which Columbus mentioned a mosque on a hill in Cuba.

Mr Erdogan also said "Muslim sailors arrived in America in 1178".

He said he was willing to build a mosque at the site Columbus identified.

The Turkish president - whose AK Party is rooted in political Islam - gave no further evidence to back up his theory, instead stating: "Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th Century."
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Okay, this one caught me by surprise and made me laugh.
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I doubt it, but you never know; there's always the Piri Reis map:

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I doubt it, but you never know; there's always the Piri Reis map:



http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/piriries.htm
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I've never made up my mind about the Reis map, so thanks for the links;

'For 1513, this map shows an astonishing amount of detail. The notes on the map explain that the map was synthesized from about 20 maps, many of which were captured from Spanish and Portuguese ships in the Mediterranean. It was also supplemented by accounts given by captured Spanish and Portuguese sailors.

Not a map from some ancient Atlantean civilization, not a map created by extraterrestrials, but a first class piece of naval intelligence. Considering that it was created by a sailor whose country never participated in the age of exploration, and that it's drawn wholly from second-hand sources, it's an astonishing piece of work. It seems to contain up-to-the-minute details derived from enemy maps, many of which would have been tightly-guarded secrets.' - Interesting stuff none-the-less - they clarify it a bit. But as I said; 'I doubt it, but you never know' (I read 1442 and 1434 and they were very entertaining...their historical veracity is...well...in question)
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And there ...

... were Jews and Christians in Anatolia before there were Muslims, big deal.

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Absolutely incredible.

What next, I wonder?

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Well, it was kinda always here...But if some Muslim, Viking, Spaniard, Italian, Norwegian stumbled across it....OK......S O W H A T ...........?
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Well, it was kinda always here...But if some Muslim, Viking, Spaniard, Italian, Norwegian stumbled across it....OK......S O W H A T ...........?


The Vikings at least left some evidence that they were here... Otherwise, Columbus' discovery is the only one that mattered during the Holocene.
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Right, every "explorer" seems to have found people in the Americas.
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Disturbing because of the concept of "once in the House of Islam, always in the House of Islam." Which is why the creation of Israel is an affront to all Muslims, and the dreams of Jihadists drift towards Spain.
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There are some who believe the Chinese were the first to discover America.



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