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14 Dec 12, 17:07
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Real Name: Steve
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By giving up her carriers, UK has choosen to abandon it's ability to project force anywhere in the world. No air cover, no projection of force. They will lose the Falklands after a bloody land battle with the isalnds being bombed into a wasteland. The other overseas territories will be picked off one by one by whoever wants them because the UK is no longer in the business of protecting itself.
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15 Dec 12, 00:50
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Real Name: Reg S.
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HMS Thailand waives the rules....
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Originally Posted by slick_miester
Younger Charrúas generally disdain their Criolla neighbors as arrogant racists. Older Uruguayans, however, downright despise Argentines. I knew more than a few who openly rooted for Britain during the late war, and loudly cheered -- as one might do at a footie match when one's side scores a goal -- when the General Belgrano was torpedoed. Over the years, the Argentines have not made friends of their neighbors, so if there's to be any shooting, none of them will extend themselves on behalf of Las Criollas que sin huicio.
British forces face one challenge these days, however: they have no means to project air power far from their shores or land bases. Currently the RN sports no aircraft carriers. Without air cover, any British fleet will be vulnerable to Argentine land-based air power, regardless of its limited numbers and combat power. Certainly you'll recall what a handful of A-4's and Super Etendards did near thirty years ago -- and that was with the RN's Sea Harriers providing limited air cover.
The RFA Sir Galahad after being struck by iron bombs and cannon fire from Argentine A-4's in San Carlos Bay, 21 May 1982.
Without aircraft carriers on station with the invasion fleet, that kind of attack will be so common as to virtually halt all British naval movements anywhere within the Argentine air force's combat radius. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ed_States_Navy
Lend lease time again? 
Bargain basement white elephants?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Chakri_Naruebet
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15 Dec 12, 01:53
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Originally Posted by JSMoss
By giving up her carriers, UK has choosen to abandon it's ability to project force anywhere in the world. No air cover, no projection of force. They will lose the Falklands after a bloody land battle with the isalnds being bombed into a wasteland. The other overseas territories will be picked off one by one by whoever wants them because the UK is no longer in the business of protecting itself.
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Could have sworn we have two carriers.. hang on let me go check...
Yup there's two of them.
No Air Cover, ya mean like that sodding great big airfield in the middle of the islands?
I rather think that the Islands "being bombed into a wasteland" is a bit beyond the Argantinian air forces abilities. Plus there's a few RAF types that might like to have a word with the attackers.
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15 Dec 12, 07:52
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Originally Posted by Listy
Could have sworn we have two carriers.. hang on let me go check...
Yup there's two of them.
No Air Cover, ya mean like that sodding great big airfield in the middle of the islands?
I rather think that the Islands "being bombed into a wasteland" is a bit beyond the Argantinian air forces abilities. Plus there's a few RAF types that might like to have a word with the attackers. |
Well there's two under construction with probably one going straight in to mothballs. You're right about the assets we have there though. |
15 Dec 12, 12:19
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Well there's two under construction with probably one going straight in to mothballs.
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Two to Three years for someone to see sense... Stranger things have happened.
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15 Dec 12, 16:28
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Two to Three years for someone to see sense... Stranger things have happened.
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This is our MOD remember. I'd love to be wrong.... |
15 Dec 12, 16:37
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This is just another effort by the argentinos to hide their complete mismanagement of their country. Uruguay sits next door so it has to go along, Guess who serviced and supplied the Falklands army, fleet and navy for Britain during the Falklands war in 1982? 
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16 Dec 12, 01:07
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The same country that uses quite allot of Ex UK hardware I suspect...
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