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11 minute yo tube video of "Armory Day" at the Springfield Armory Historic Site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOkgqvqzNU0

3 minute you tube video touring the Springfield Arsenal Historic Site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdv4p8T_Twg

from National Park Service - Web page on Springfield Armory National Historic Site
http://www.nps.gov/spar/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory

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The Springfield Armory, located in the City of Springfield, Massachusetts—from 1777 until its closing in 1968—was the primary center for the manufacture of U.S. military firearms. After its controversial closing during the Vietnam War, the Springfield Armory was declared Western Massachusetts' only National Park. It features the world's largest collections of historic firearms.[2]
Famous first as the United States' primary arsenal during the U.S. Revolutionary War, and then as the battlefield of Shays's Rebellion, in the 19th and 20th centuries, the Springfield Armory became the site of numerous technological innovations of global importance, including interchangeable parts, the assembly line style of mass production, and modern business practices, such as hourly wages. Numerous firearm models produced at the Springfield Armory from 1794 to 1968 were referred to as "Springfield rifles". For several decades, the United States featured a second National Armory, the Harpers Ferry Armory in Virginia. Ironically, the Harper's Ferry Armory was destroyed during the American Civil War at the incitement of former Springfield resident and abolitionist, John Brown. The Harper's Ferry Armory was never reconstructed. Thus the Springfield Armory was America's first National Armory—its site was chosen in 1777 by George Washington and Henry Knox—and its last National Armory, closed in 1968.

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Local and colonial militia used the bluff on which the Springfield Armory would become located during the 17th century for militia training, particularly after the Attack on Springfield during King Phillip's War.
In 1777, George Washington himself scouted and approved the site of the Springfield Armory, after it was referred to him by Henry Knox. Although a small town at the time, Springfield, Massachusetts, offered obvious geographical advantages—it lay at the intersection of three rivers (including the major Connecticut River), and four major highways headed toward New York City, Boston, Albany, New York, and Montreal, Canada. Additionally, Springfield is located just north of the Connecticut River's first waterfall, (Enfield Falls,) which is too steep to be navigated by ocean-going vessels. Thus, Springfield was the first town on the Connecticut River protected from sea attack.
The Armory site itself sits atop a high bluff like a citadel, overlooking a wide stretch of the Connecticut River, and it confluence with the Westfield River. Colonel Henry Knox, Chief of Artillery for General Washington, concurred with Washington that "the plain just above Springfield is perhaps one of the most proper spots on every account" for the location of an arsenal.
In 1777, patriot colonists established "The Arsenal at Springfield" to manufacture cartridges and gun carriages for the American Revolutionary War. During the Revolution, the arsenal stored muskets, cannon, and other weapons. Patriots built barracks, shops, storehouses, and a magazine. Some doubt exists regarding whether the colonists manufactured arms during the Revolutionary War.[3] After the war, the Army kept the facility to store arms for future needs. By the 1780s, Springfield Arsenal functioned as a major ammunition and weapons arsenal.
At some later time when manufacturing became important the arsenal expanded to a second area south and west in Springfield where water power was available. Either before or after the arsenal’s expansion ‘Mill River’ was about a mile long lake, ‘Watershops Pond,’ was formed. The main shops were behind the dam and a foundry was built below the dam. This factory was modernized and the greater part of machining for Springfield and Garand rifles was conducted in this facility.

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11 minute yo tube video of "Armory Day" at the Springfield Armory Historic Site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOkgqvqzNU0

3 minute you tube video touring the Springfield Arsenal Historic Site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdv4p8T_Twg

from National Park Service - Web page on Springfield Armory National Historic Site
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory

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The Springfield Armory, located in the City of Springfield, Massachusetts—from 1777 until its closing in 1968—was the primary center for the manufacture of U.S. military firearms. After its controversial closing during the Vietnam War, the Springfield Armory was declared Western Massachusetts' only National Park. It features the world's largest collections of historic firearms.[2]
Famous first as the United States' primary arsenal during the U.S. Revolutionary War, and then as the battlefield of Shays's Rebellion, in the 19th and 20th centuries, the Springfield Armory became the site of numerous technological innovations of global importance, including interchangeable parts, the assembly line style of mass production, and modern business practices, such as hourly wages. Numerous firearm models produced at the Springfield Armory from 1794 to 1968 were referred to as "Springfield rifles". For several decades, the United States featured a second National Armory, the Harpers Ferry Armory in Virginia. Ironically, the Harper's Ferry Armory was destroyed during the American Civil War at the incitement of former Springfield resident and abolitionist, John Brown. The Harper's Ferry Armory was never reconstructed. Thus the Springfield Armory was America's first National Armory—its site was chosen in 1777 by George Washington and Henry Knox—and its last National Armory, closed in 1968.

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Local and colonial militia used the bluff on which the Springfield Armory would become located during the 17th century for militia training, particularly after the Attack on Springfield during King Phillip's War.
In 1777, George Washington himself scouted and approved the site of the Springfield Armory, after it was referred to him by Henry Knox. Although a small town at the time, Springfield, Massachusetts, offered obvious geographical advantages—it lay at the intersection of three rivers (including the major Connecticut River), and four major highways headed toward New York City, Boston, Albany, New York, and Montreal, Canada. Additionally, Springfield is located just north of the Connecticut River's first waterfall, (Enfield Falls,) which is too steep to be navigated by ocean-going vessels. Thus, Springfield was the first town on the Connecticut River protected from sea attack.
The Armory site itself sits atop a high bluff like a citadel, overlooking a wide stretch of the Connecticut River, and it confluence with the Westfield River. Colonel Henry Knox, Chief of Artillery for General Washington, concurred with Washington that "the plain just above Springfield is perhaps one of the most proper spots on every account" for the location of an arsenal.
In 1777, patriot colonists established "The Arsenal at Springfield" to manufacture cartridges and gun carriages for the American Revolutionary War. During the Revolution, the arsenal stored muskets, cannon, and other weapons. Patriots built barracks, shops, storehouses, and a magazine. Some doubt exists regarding whether the colonists manufactured arms during the Revolutionary War.[3] After the war, the Army kept the facility to store arms for future needs. By the 1780s, Springfield Arsenal functioned as a major ammunition and weapons arsenal.
At some later time when manufacturing became important the arsenal expanded to a second area south and west in Springfield where water power was available. Either before or after the arsenal’s expansion ‘Mill River’ was about a mile long lake, ‘Watershops Pond,’ was formed. The main shops were behind the dam and a foundry was built below the dam. This factory was modernized and the greater part of machining for Springfield and Garand rifles was conducted in this facility.
Nice videos/articles Tony... I think that the Charleville 1763 was the first musket copied?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleville_musket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_musket
I believe France sent well over 200 thousand muskets to America during the American Revolution when the armouries were over flowing that's quite a few!
http://www.jaegerkorps.org/NRA/The%2...harleville.htm
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You Tube video: Trail of Tears: Cherokee Legacy Native American Indian -7 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-TYoZE5NM

You tube video - The Trail of Tears - They Knew It Was Wrong
by Amy H Sturgis PHD Lenoir-Rhyne University

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You Tube video: Trail of Tears: Cherokee Legacy Native American Indian -7 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-TYoZE5NM

You tube video - The Trail of Tears - They Knew It Was Wrong
by Amy H Sturgis PHD Lenoir-Rhyne University

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalhDKLrWEQ
Yep.. But I think the real reason the Indians sided with Canada was you guys got all the good dirt compliments of the ice age...
All those boys had to offer us POM's (Prisoners of Her/His Magesty's Empire) was the beaver so we had no or little good farm land..
You really can't blame General George Washington though...I mean he could see where the good farm land ended and he pursued the 49th parallel.
Hey guns made America no doubt and his location of the Springfield locaton was great...
He made the 13 Provinces of New England into the 13 States of America and personally I'm kinda a gun guy too as I like to hunt Partridge with a shot gun I've got bad eyes!lol
I worked on the Oklahoma City FTC Super Max and if I lived in the USA I would probably be a member of the NRA I love the USA.
I believe that criminals kill not guns!
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Trapper's Log Cabin at the Living History School Tour

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The Living History School's Pioneer Log Cabin Tour

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I guess this would have to be called "Faux Americana" - Native American Tipi Camp in USA. The hostess, Patricia Marie, doesn't have rock-solid abs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_eO6-jAGIc

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10 minute you tube video about Conestoga Wagons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qJ1h9VgIeU

Across the Kansas Prairie, Wagon Train Documentary, Part 1. 12 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQwl-O0O450
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Not a video, but a link to some very interesting photographs of Native Americans, taken by Edward S. Curtis. A very interesting article in the August 2013 of American History, which includes many of these iconic pictures. The pictures were taken in an attempt to document the Native American way of life before it for practical purposes disappeared. Below is a link to the complete collection of photos with text in 20 volumes at Northwestern University. Below that is a link to the wikipedia article on Curtis, and a picture from the Wikipedia article, the taking of which is discussed at some length in the American History article.

http://curtis.library.northwestern.edu/curtis/toc.cgi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_S._Curtis


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From you tube: Oglala Lakota Women and Buffalo. A four minute video I found interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1_Yf6vAsc
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From you tube: Oglala Lakota Women and Buffalo. A four minute video I found interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1_Yf6vAsc
Thanks for sharing... Here's an original Bison Range Map..
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._range_map.svg
In Wisconsin and Minnesota the range is thought to be a bit farther north due to the native peoples use of fire...
http://www.atthecreation.com/WOODS/H...ISTORICAL.html
There should be some examples of Buffalo hunts in such places as Buffalo Creek (Buffalo New York) by Samuel De Champlain/Etienne Brule. Radisson & Groseilliers were reportedly hunting Bison @ La Pointe Wisconsin & around Ely Minnesota a days journey from Grande Portage Minnesota.
Etienne Brule also located the Ojibway Copper Mines on Isle Royale and documented them to Samuel De Champlain..
http://www.jcs-group.com/oldwest/america/1608brule.html
http://www.jcs-group.com/oldwest/ame...champlain.html
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I'd like to read David Hackett Fischer's book Champlain's Dream here's a video of him with TVO...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ech1SqQLHgY
CBC Quebec History Samuel De Champlain.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0e2Jr00kSU
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I'd like to read David Hackett Fischer's book Champlain's Dream here's a video of him with TVO...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ech1SqQLHgY
CBC Quebec History Samuel De Champlain.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0e2Jr00kSU
Great videos, SmackUm! I was particularly interested about how Champlain encouraged intermarriage. I've always wondered if I have some native blood in my French-Canadian blood. I would like to think I might, especially since my people were on the southern Quebec periphery before they crossed into Vermont. I found the Wikipedia article on the Metis, who are mentioned in the video (I understand they are today mostly in Western Canada.) I will definitely try to pick up "Champlain's Dream" at the used book store.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9...e_%28Canada%29

Below is a photo of the Champlain Statue in Isle La Motte, VT. I looked forward to seeing this every year when I was a kid, and also looking across to the quite near NY State shoreline. Below that is a photo of a sign which briefly explains the history.







Wikipedia article on Isle La Motte, VT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_La_Motte

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Great videos, SmackUm! I was particularly interested about how Champlain encouraged intermarriage. I've always wondered if I have some native blood in my French-Canadian blood. I would like to think I might, especially since my people were on the southern Quebec periphery before they crossed into Vermont. I found the Wikipedia article on the Metis, who are mentioned in the video (I understand they are today mostly in Western Canada.) I will definitely try to pick up "Champlain's Dream" at the used book store.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9...e_%28Canada%29

Below is a photo of the Champlain Statue in Isle La Motte, VT. I looked forward to seeing this every year when I was a kid, and also looking across to the quite near NY State shoreline. Below that is a photo of a sign which briefly explains the history.







Wikipedia article on Isle La Motte, VT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_La_Motte
Yeah... I'd think that would be highly likely most of the French intermarried so I'm metis too...
The difficult part is finding actual written documents to prove events like the hunting of Buffalo @ Buffalo Creek (Buffalo New York) by Champlain, Brule, etc...
as most of the early fur traders could not read and write it just wasn't a practical tool for everyday life in that day and age.
Like in the movie Black Robe most could not read or write except for the priest Father La Forge this makes things difficult to prove like Brule finding Isle Royale although we know he describes the Indians minning copper and brings copper back to Champlain...
Etienne Brule also fell out of grace with Samuel De Champlain in latter years and was boiled alive and eaten so I have to believe that a lot of his accomplishments were forgotten by Champlain...
Radisson & Grosilliers had a similar falling out in New France so there must have been a lot of changing sides as is often the case in war..
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Great videos, SmackUm! I was particularly interested about how Champlain encouraged intermarriage. I've always wondered if I have some native blood in my French-Canadian blood. I would like to think I might, especially since my people were on the southern Quebec periphery before they crossed into Vermont. I found the Wikipedia article on the Metis, who are mentioned in the video (I understand they are today mostly in Western Canada.) I will definitely try to pick up "Champlain's Dream" at the used book store.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9...e_%28Canada%29

Below is a photo of the Champlain Statue in Isle La Motte, VT. I looked forward to seeing this every year when I was a kid, and also looking across to the quite near NY State shoreline. Below that is a photo of a sign which briefly explains the history.







Wikipedia article on Isle La Motte, VT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_La_Motte
Good article on Isle La Motte lakechampainer...
Here is a Lake Superior Time Line...
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/project.../timeline.html
Etienne Brule traveled Lake Superior from 1619-1620 and probably found the copper he latter took to Champlain in the Copper Mines @ McCargo Cove on Isle Royale... Benjamin Franklin had his eye on this copper in 1776 & Captain Robert McCargo hid the HMS Recovery built @ the Fort William dry dock there in 1812...
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Really a Canadiana video - A film about the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Musical Ride, from 1954.

I look forward to seeing them every other year at the Topsfield, MA Fair.

On my mind after reading about the Mounties - again - breaking up a terror plot.



http://www.nfb.ca/film/musical_ride/

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