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It seems that Nigeria is shuffling towards 'failed state', at least in the north. It is an ungoverned space in large swathes. Through North Africa and the ME, the outcome is that radical Islam rushes to fill any such void.
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It seems that Nigeria is shuffling towards 'failed state', at least in the north. It is an ungoverned space in large swathes. Through North Africa and the ME, the outcome is that radical Islam rushes to fill any such void.
Couldent have said it better, seems to be par for the course.

What can be done about this? It's clear that Nigerian forces cannot handle the job. A multi-national African force was wiped out. This is getting very out of hand ... and whatever happened to all those kidnapped girls?
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What can be done about this? It's clear that Nigerian forces cannot handle the job. A multi-national African force was wiped out. This is getting very out of hand ... and whatever happened to all those kidnapped girls?
They've disappeared entirely, "married" (yeah, right....) into Boko Haram, I read yesterday.

There is a real problem (several, but here is another) with the U.S. going into Nigeria, besides the fact that it's really Britain's previous colony:

Ebola is still increasing in Sierra Leone and Guinea, and the danger of it spreading into Nigerian slums and all over Nigeria is no less today than it was last November. NOT a good time to put a lot of troops into Nigeria.
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This is how Islam takes over whole countries, like Nigeria.



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Couldent have said it better, seems to be par for the course.

What can be done about this? It's clear that Nigerian forces cannot handle the job. A multi-national African force was wiped out. This is getting very out of hand ... and whatever happened to all those kidnapped girls?
I might have missed it but which multi-national African force was wiped out and where? The Multi-National Joint Task Force base at Baga only had Nigerian forces stationed there.
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I might have missed it but which multi-national African force was wiped out and where? The Multi-National Joint Task Force base at Baga only had Nigerian forces stationed there.
Yep. This is a Nigerian screw up. Them alone.
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Boko Haram makes a lot of news because of their willingness to commit pretty much any sort of atrocity. They are running rampant in part because the the powers that be in Lagos are still more wrapped up in political maneuvering and stealing as much oil wealth as possible. There is not much point to inserting foreign troops.

The Nigerians have enough people and money. What they don't have is a broad sense of national identity. Sound familiar?

We can help with training, C3 capabilities, logistics, and some intelligence assets. We should not provide anything beyond that.
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No troops no intervention means more of the same atrocities can be expected. I wonder what will make the government get their act together? Or is this simply a case of get rich as much as possible and escape to another country?
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Perhaps when Boko Haram gets closer to Lagos the government will start paying attention.
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By then it would be to late.
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No troops no intervention means more of the same atrocities can be expected. I wonder what will make the government get their act together? Or is this simply a case of get rich as much as possible and escape to another country?
Of course it is.

Then Boko Haram will replace that government and Islamize the whole of Nigeria.
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Boko Haram makes a lot of news because of their willingness to commit pretty much any sort of atrocity. They are running rampant in part because the the powers that be in Lagos are still more wrapped up in political maneuvering and stealing as much oil wealth as possible. There is not much point to inserting foreign troops.

The Nigerians have enough people and money. What they don't have is a broad sense of national identity. Sound familiar?

We can help with training, C3 capabilities, logistics, and some intelligence assets. We should not provide anything beyond that.
I recall the forces of Chad were used previously in this region and they emerged with a good reputation.
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Nope. There are a few western trainers but that is about it.
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If they did, I seem to recall there is a coalition of African countries they can call on?
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