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Is assassination a viable alternative means of warfare?
Why start a huge war when a single bullet through the head of a dictator would do instead?
For example if somebody had taken out Hitler in the 1930's there'd have probably been no WW2 would there?
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One man's dictator is another man's "dear leader".

Say we make assassination a tool of national security.

Where do we draw the line? The world is full of countries that have low life evil leaders. Some would argue the U.S. has one.

I think things world wide could quickly spin out of control if this became common.

I can think of a leader of an Asian nation, who resembles a fat troll doll who seems to have serious mental issues, that most would agree the world will be better without. Yet threatening this troll may cause actions that could result in the deaths of millions.
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Didn't work too well in the case of Archduke Ferdinand in 1914 now did it?

There was a scheme to drop a British assassination squad into Berchtesgaden and planning was quite well advanced but it was pointed out in 1944 that Hitler's insistence on micro managing the German Army from Berlin meant that the Allies were bettor off having him in place.
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One man's dictator is another man's "dear leader".
Say we make assassination a tool of national security.
Where do we draw the line? The world is full of countries that have low life evil leaders. Some would argue the U.S. has one.
I think things world wide could quickly spin out of control if this became common.
I can think of a leader of an Asian nation, who resembles a fat troll doll who seems to have serious mental issues, that most would agree the world will be better without. Yet threatening this troll may cause actions that could result in the deaths of millions.
1- Trump and every other world leader has got fanatics who hate him/her, nothing new there..
2- Every case is different, personally I think Kim is just a harmless windbag at the moment, calling the US names like a silly overgrown schoolboy..
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Didn't work too well in the case of Archduke Ferdinand in 1914 now did it?
There was a scheme to drop a British assassination squad into Berchtesgaden and planning was quite well advanced but it was pointed out in 1944 that Hitler's insistence on micro managing the German Army from Berlin meant that the Allies were bettor off having him in place.
1- Every case is different, Ferdinand was no warmongering tyrant like Hitler, neither was Lincoln.
2- There was a fictional film (can't remember the title), where a few US troops were cut off behind German lines and saw Hitler arrive by train. One wanted to shoot him but the others said "No don't do it, he's the biggest help the Allies can have", because of his constant interfering with the German military..

Anyway there's no guarantee that killing a leader would change history, check out the New Twilight Zone episode called "Cradle of Darkness" where a German-speaking woman is sent back in time to get a job as nanny in the Hitler household so she can kill the newborn baby Adolf to prevent WW2 from happening.
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I've wished I could control lighting.

I'd have two power settings on my lightning bolts.

1. Stun setting. Would knock a person down, and give them something to think about. For minor evil characters, like al sharpton, justin beiber and taylor swift. I could also aid law enforcement in apprehending criminals.

2. Coma setting. Would as the name says put the evil doer into a coma. For major sources of evil like the kim jong un, the Iranian nuclear scientists, all members of al qaeda and isis.

Putting a major trouble maker into a coma could be more effective than a 7.65mm in the brain pan.

My wife says I shouldn't post when I've taken my pain meds. I feel quite lucid.
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1- Trump and every other world leader has got fanatics who hate him/her, nothing new there..
2- Every case is different, personally I think Kim is just a harmless windbag at the moment, calling the US names like a silly overgrown schoolboy..
No one, no matter how foolish appearing, who controls nuclear weapons is "harmless". To think otherwise is to commit suicide.
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No one, no matter how foolish appearing, who controls nuclear weapons is "harmless". To think otherwise is to commit suicide.
I've been saying in AG and other forums for quite a while that there's no need to put boots on the ground in NK, because Trump can use "another means of warfare" by trashing Kim's nuclear infrastructure with a non-nuclear cruise missile/drone/airstrike blitz to draw his teeth and render him as harmless as a poodle, and I'm surprised Don hasn't done it by now, I hope he's not going soft.
(Or at the very least he could trash just a few of Kim's ICBM launch complexes, how many's he got anyway?)
In military terms it's a target-rich environment out there..

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