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Napoleonic Era Discuss the many wars fought around the globe around the time of Napoleon. This forum is dedicated to the memory of Ben Weider and our late friend and long time ACG Staff member, Michael Brown, better known here as Post Captain.

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JN = Jerome = Westphalia. J = Kingdom of Naples = Joachim I (Murat)

Please note that the crowned JN cipher was also used by the Kingdom of Naples up to 'iirc 1813. Remember, Joseph ruled the Kingdom of Naples before becoming the King of Spain.

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And Joseph=Spain=?
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And Joseph=Spain=?
please re-read my last post.

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Here is a link to some posts I made a couple of years ago

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[QUOTE=The_Hussar;2185679]1. For Joachim Murat's army I have this picture ( attachment 1) It is clearly seen there is M signature. The picture itself was downloaded from this forum. If the uploader is watching this thread, please identify this picture as authentic or not.

I uploaded the picture that was entitled 'Velite Officer of Naples Royal Guard 1811' so the picture itself is authentic.

BUT whether the artist was correct is obviously a different matter, the artist could have and possible did misread the JN cipher from his source.

You cannot be sure of anything on the basis of one picture, particularly anything to do with Murat & Naples. I have never seen another example of the 'M' cipher.

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1. For Joachim Murat's army I have this picture ( attachment 1) It is clearly seen there is M signature. The picture itself was downloaded from this forum. If the uploader is watching this thread, please identify this picture as authentic or not.

I uploaded the picture that was entitled 'Velite Officer of Naples Royal Guard 1811' so the picture itself is authentic.

BUT whether the artist was correct is obviously a different matter, the artist could have and possible did misread the JN cipher from his source.

You cannot be sure of anything on the basis of one picture, particularly anything to do with Murat & Naples. I have never seen another example of the 'M' cipher.

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You should go to post #2460 on the previous page...
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You should go to post #2460 on the previous page...
Many thanks - I had missed that post! Just to add to the confusion there is a Quinto Cenni print with a "GM" on the sabretache of a Neopolitan Guard bugler..... see attached!
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Kingdom of Italy 1812 - some illustrative plates from Gallica (titles on each plate).

These form part of the "Uniformes de l'armée française en 1812" by Grammont http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7200268n/f1 There are some 83 plates in total......

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