HistoryNet.com RSS
ArmchairGeneral.com RSS

HistoryNet.com Articles
America's Civil War
American History
Aviation History
Civil War Times
MHQ
Military History
Vietnam
Wild West
World War II

ACG Online
ACG Magazine
Stuff We Like
War College
History News
Tactics 101
Carlo D'Este
Books

ACG Gaming
Boardgames
PC Game Reviews

ACG Network
Contact Us
Our Newsletter
Meet Our Staff
Advertise With Us

Sites We Support
HistoryNet.com
StreamHistory.com
Once A Marine
The Art of Battle
Game Squad
Mil. History Podcast
Russian Army - WW2
Achtung Panzer!
Mil History Online

Go Back   Armchair General and HistoryNet >> The Best Forums in History > Current Events > North America

Notices and Announcements

North America Important Events in Canada and the United States. .

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #121  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:16
slick_miester's Avatar
slick_miester slick_miester is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign 
 
Real Name: Marc
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 25,031
slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+] slick_miester has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TactiKill J. View Post
It's time we start treating domestic terror with the same urgency as radical Islamic terror. It's not Muslims I'm worried about when at any large event.
Are you suggesting that is was an act of terrorism, ie there was a political aspect behind it? To the best of my knowledge the authorities haven't announced a motive one way or the other.
__________________
I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:23
TactiKill J.'s Avatar
TactiKill J. TactiKill J. is offline
Lieutenant General
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 3,744
TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200]
Quote:
Originally Posted by slick_miester View Post
Are you suggesting that is was an act of terrorism, ie there was a political aspect behind it? To the best of my knowledge the authorities haven't announced a motive one way or the other.
There are some things that don't add up right now. Some people at the festival have mentioned that a woman approached them, 45 minutes before the shooting and told them they were all about to die. If those accounts are indeed true there was an accomplice in this. If he didn't act alone, it's more likely to be an act of terror.

It's also been reported that MaryLou had a bunch of crazy left wing ideology on her facebook page. If the police are saying she's not involved then maybe that doesn't matter.

Whether it was politically motivated or not does it make it any better? If we want the country to be safe, it's more than just Muslims and radical Islam we need to be concerned with.
__________________
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

Last edited by TactiKill J.; 02 Oct 17 at 14:29..
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:31
ljadw's Avatar
ljadw ljadw is offline
General of the Forums
Belgium
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: zottegem
Posts: 14,769
ljadw gives and gets respect [800] ljadw gives and gets respect [800]
ljadw gives and gets respect [800] ljadw gives and gets respect [800]
Quote:
Originally Posted by asterix View Post
I've not seen this on any of the major news networks...where do you see this?
Jihad Watch
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:34
MarkV's Avatar
MarkV MarkV is offline
General of the Forums
UK
Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C Tournament 1 of the ACG 2017-2018 
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Tenbury Wells
Posts: 12,571
MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700]
MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TactiKill J. View Post
There are some things that don't add up right now. Some people at the festival have mentioned that a woman approached them, 45 minutes before the shooting and told them they were all about to die. If those accounts are indeed true there was an accomplice in this. If he didn't act alone, it's more likely to be an act of terror.

It's also been reported that MaryLou had a bunch of crazy left wing ideology on her facebook page. If the police are saying she's not involved then maybe that doesn't matter.

Whether it was politically motivated or not does it make it any better? If we want the country to be safe, it's more than just Muslims and radical Islam we need to be concerned with.
And so urban myths and conspiracy theories get born.
__________________
Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:35
T. A. Gardner's Avatar
T. A. Gardner T. A. Gardner is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C 
Tournament 1 and preceding Mini-Polls Greatest/Best Tank of WW2 Campaign 
 
Real Name: T. A. Gardner
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 35,277
T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Quote:
Originally Posted by slick_miester View Post
Are you suggesting that is was an act of terrorism, ie there was a political aspect behind it? To the best of my knowledge the authorities haven't announced a motive one way or the other.
Odds are one of two reasons behind this:

1. The guy did have a political agenda but it wasn't Islamic in nature. Maybe a 25% chance.

2. The guy had issues mental, emotional, or the like. Rough guess 75% chance
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:37
ljadw's Avatar
ljadw ljadw is offline
General of the Forums
Belgium
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: zottegem
Posts: 14,769
ljadw gives and gets respect [800] ljadw gives and gets respect [800]
ljadw gives and gets respect [800] ljadw gives and gets respect [800]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Pint John View Post
All this has been already discussed .

Factless ?

You don't know that the Germans switched from shooting to gas chambers to exterminate the Jews ?

Or maybe you pretend to not know ?

The SoB who murdered 58 persons, did not murder them because he had a gun, but because he liked to murder people .

People who have a gun are not more dangerous than people without gun .
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:42
MarkV's Avatar
MarkV MarkV is offline
General of the Forums
UK
Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C Tournament 1 of the ACG 2017-2018 
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Tenbury Wells
Posts: 12,571
MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700]
MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700] MarkV is a glorious beacon of light [700]
Quote:
Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
Odds are one of two reasons behind this:

1. The guy did have a political agenda but it wasn't Islamic in nature. Maybe a 25% chance.

2. The guy had issues mental, emotional, or the like. Rough guess 75% chance
Or both
__________________
Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:43
TactiKill J.'s Avatar
TactiKill J. TactiKill J. is offline
Lieutenant General
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 3,744
TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200] TactiKill J. is walking in the light [200]
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkV View Post
And so urban myths and conspiracy theories get born.
__________________
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:58
Karri's Avatar
Karri Karri is offline
General of the Forums
Finland
ACG Ten Year Service Award ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon March Offensive Summer Campaign 
100 Greatest Generals, 2008 Most Decisive Battle Campaign, 2008 Greatest Westerns Campaign Greatest Spy Movies Campaign 
Best Pin-Up Of World War II CWiE 1939-45 Campaign 
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey
Posts: 9,355
Karri has earned the respect of all [900] Karri has earned the respect of all [900]
Karri has earned the respect of all [900] Karri has earned the respect of all [900] Karri has earned the respect of all [900] Karri has earned the respect of all [900] Karri has earned the respect of all [900] Karri has earned the respect of all [900]
Quote:
Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
Odds are one of two reasons behind this:

1. The guy did have a political agenda but it wasn't Islamic in nature. Maybe a 25% chance.

2. The guy had issues mental, emotional, or the like. Rough guess 75% chance
Or 3:
He just snapped.
__________________
In a swamp scum rises to the top
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 02 Oct 17, 14:58
Combat Engineer's Avatar
Combat Engineer Combat Engineer is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
ACG Ten Year Service Award ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Real Name: John Rainey
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saint Louis MO
Posts: 23,792
Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Quote:
Originally Posted by slick_miester View Post
Are you suggesting that is was an act of terrorism, ie there was a political aspect behind it? To the best of my knowledge the authorities haven't announced a motive one way or the other.
It does meet the State of Nevada's definition of terrorism:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.5a09ff923d2b

Quote:
Nevada law has a clear definition of terrorism: “The use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population.”
__________________
“The time has come,” the Walrus said,
“To talk of many things:
Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
Of cabbages—and kings—
And why the sea is boiling hot—
And whether pigs have wings.”
― Lewis Carroll
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

  #131  
Old 02 Oct 17, 15:13
T. A. Gardner's Avatar
T. A. Gardner T. A. Gardner is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C 
Tournament 1 and preceding Mini-Polls Greatest/Best Tank of WW2 Campaign 
 
Real Name: T. A. Gardner
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 35,277
T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+] T. A. Gardner has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karri View Post
Or 3:
He just snapped.
That's covered by option #2
Reply With Quote
  #132  
Old 02 Oct 17, 15:21
Surrey's Avatar
Surrey Surrey is offline
General of the Forums
UK
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon March Offensive Summer Campaign 100 Greatest Generals, 2008 
Most Decisive Battle Campaign, 2008 Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role  Aircraft 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Surrey
Posts: 5,883
Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500]
Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500] Surrey is a jewel in the rough [500]
He was 64, no wife, no children. He lived in a retirement home despite being only 64, the last indicates he had some form of health issue.

My guess is that something recent made him flip but he had a lot of resentment against the world already, blaming the everyone else for his own failures.
__________________
"To be free is better than to be unfree - always."
Reply With Quote
  #133  
Old 02 Oct 17, 15:26
Merkava188's Avatar
Merkava188 Merkava188 is offline
Major
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C 
Tournament 1 and preceding Mini-Polls 
 
Real Name: Doug Williams
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sierra Vista
Posts: 1,010
Merkava188 is on the path to success [1-99] Merkava188 is on the path to success [1-99] Merkava188 is on the path to success [1-99]
So what caused this person to do something like this?
Reply With Quote
  #134  
Old 02 Oct 17, 15:33
Combat Engineer's Avatar
Combat Engineer Combat Engineer is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
ACG Ten Year Service Award ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Real Name: John Rainey
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saint Louis MO
Posts: 23,792
Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Combat Engineer has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Surrey View Post
He was 64, no wife, no children. He lived in a retirement home despite being only 64, the last indicates he had some form of health issue.

My guess is that something recent made him flip but he had a lot of resentment against the world already, blaming the everyone else for his own failures.
No, it was not a retirement 'home'. It was a retirement community meaning a suburb that catered to residence over a certain age. Usually 55 or 60. The people own their own homes usually single family or 'villa's.

It has no reflection on his health or his ability to get around.
__________________
“The time has come,” the Walrus said,
“To talk of many things:
Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
Of cabbages—and kings—
And why the sea is boiling hot—
And whether pigs have wings.”
― Lewis Carroll
Reply With Quote
  #135  
Old 02 Oct 17, 15:43
Darth Holliday's Avatar
Darth Holliday Darth Holliday is offline
Captain
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Avalon Hill - Tampa Bay
Posts: 758
Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99] Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99] Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99] Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99] Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99] Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99] Darth Holliday is on the path to success [1-99]
Geez...Can ya give it 24 Hours before the normal BS and conspiracy stuff...!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Please bookmark this thread if you enjoyed it!


Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:39.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.