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No sympathy for Vegas victims, 'probably Republicans'

I wonder how much lower these people will go:

“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs [sic] will ever do the right thing,” Geftman-Gold wrote in a now-deleted message that was first reported and captured by The Daily Caller.


Geftman-Gold continued: “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc [sic] country music fans often are Republican gun toters [sic].”

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“Something else, I think, to keep in mind–a lot of these country music supporters are likely Trump supporters,” Zeleny said. “This is something, of course, hitting the tapestry of all Americans and there are going to be victims from across the country here.”

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It goes both ways. Look at all the people on social media who were condemning Muslims and then went silent when they found out he was white. There was no sympathy expressed to the victims, all some right wingers cared about was this man's ethnicity and that's sad when political agenda overtakes empathy. This nation is too politically charged and biased on both sides. We're a divided country.
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CBS has fired a legal executive who took to social media Monday morning with harsh words for the victims of one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.
Hayley Geftman-Gold, a VP and senior counsel in strategic transactions at CBS wrote on Twitter Monday just hours after a shooting in Las Vegas at a country-music festival left at least 58 dead and hundreds more injured, “If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing. I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans are often republican gun toters.”
Geftman-Gold’s comments quickly spread on social media and through online news outlets. Her employment at CBS was terminated shortly thereafter.
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cbs-...as-1202578075/
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So what caused this person to do something like this?
Because he likes to do this ;there are a lot of people like him; that's why we have police .
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Usually the killed/wounded ratio is 1-3, or 1-6 in ideal situations. What we are looking at in Vegas is 1-11, and that is pretty damned amazing. There must be some awesome examples of heroism and fantastically spot-on medical work going on while the shooting was still happening.


THAT is the side of this that I would like to know more about.

Maybe later, I'll get into the rest of this, once we know something concrete.
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Meanwhile ISIS identifies him as Abu Abd Abdulbar al-Ameriki . (source : Jihad Watch )

This indicates that ISIS is convinced that he is a converted Muslim,that he is one of them, and that he is not a white supremacist . Otherwise, ISIS would be showed with their pants down .
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There are some things that don't add up right now. Some people at the festival have mentioned that a woman approached them, 45 minutes before the shooting and told them they were all about to die. If those accounts are indeed true there was an accomplice in this. If he didn't act alone, it's more likely to be an act of terror.

It's also been reported that MaryLou had a bunch of crazy left wing ideology on her facebook page. If the police are saying she's not involved then maybe that doesn't matter.
And all of that adds up to what, a fishing expedition? Fact is, you know no more about this case than anyone else. All you can do is speculate, and unless you're in tight with the Las Vegas Metro PD, your speculation is no more meaningful than anyone elses.

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Whether it was politically motivated or not does it make it any better? If we want the country to be safe, it's more than just Muslims and radical Islam we need to be concerned with.
Well, if we want the country to be safe, then we should ban passenger cars: account for more deaths than all the firearms homicides and terrorism fatalities combined. Now that would be safe.

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Odds are one of two reasons behind this:

1. The guy did have a political agenda but it wasn't Islamic in nature. Maybe a 25% chance.

2. The guy had issues mental, emotional, or the like. Rough guess 75% chance
But again, you're just speculating -- unless you're privy to an altogether different source. Care to share with the congregation?

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It does meet the State of Nevada's definition of terrorism:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.5a09ff923d2b

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Nevada law has a clear definition of terrorism: “The use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population.”
I was defining terrorism in a more conventional fashion, ie mass random violence ostensibly motivated by the perp's political ideology.

Now we'd all better be careful on this here internet, lest we all be slapped with terrorism charges.

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Geez...Can ya give it 24 Hours before the normal BS and conspiracy stuff...!
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And all of that adds up to what, a fishing expedition? Fact is, you know no more about this case than anyone else. All you can do is speculate, and unless you're in tight with the Las Vegas Metro PD, your speculation is no more meaningful than anyone elses.
Doesn't really matter if it was politically motivated or not, the results and the continued threat is still the same.

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I didn't say anything about banning firearms.
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Doesn't really matter if it was politically motivated or not, the results and the continued threat is still the same.
For what it's worth, you're right: dead is dead. Some folks, however, tend to believe that there are some forms of dead that are deader than others.

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I didn't say anything about banning firearms.
How about banning immigrants?
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Usually the killed/wounded ratio is 1-3, or 1-6 in ideal situations. What we are looking at in Vegas is 1-11, and that is pretty damned amazing. There must be some awesome examples of heroism and fantastically spot-on medical work going on while the shooting was still happening.


THAT is the side of this that I would like to know more about.

Maybe later, I'll get into the rest of this, once we know something concrete.
British media are reporting that there some British servicemen on leave who were present and helped the wounded.
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British media are reporting that there some British servicemen on leave who were present and helped the wounded.
Very disappointing: in all the commotion, those Brits could have looted all up and down the strip and nobody would have noticed.
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Meanwhile ISIS identifies him as Abu Abd Abdulbar al-Ameriki . (source : Jihad Watch )

This indicates that ISIS is convinced that he is a converted Muslim,that he is one of them, and that he is not a white supremacist . Otherwise, ISIS would be showed with their pants down .
ISIS also claimed the Manila attack which turned out to be a robbery gone wrong.
They know the authorities will not make a definite statement on motive for a while, so it gives them valuable publicity in the meantime.
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