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Jihadist with Sword attacks Buckingham Palace

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But now reports are saying a man, not a muslim... because non-muslims always yell "Alahu Akbar" when they come at you with a deadly weapon.
Oh and it's a "large knife" now...


Getting busier all the time over there, but then the Mayor did say it has to be like this now, didn't he?
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Looks like my prediction of Europe becoming more like Israel are coming true, with a regular stream of low level attacks on the security services, and a number of mass casualty attacks each year.
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Turns out the poor chap's got mental problems, but then you'd have to have wouldn't you...
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Surprisingly popular, swords... Quck google:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7645736.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34602621
https://pamelageller.com/2017/08/was...d-police.html/
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/muslim-ar...-sword-attack/
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Why am I reminded of Sean Connery in the "Untouchables" making a remark: "Isn't this just like a W@p? Bringing a knife to a gunfight?".. Then he wanders right into a Tommy Gun!

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But now reports are saying a man, not a muslim... because non-muslims always yell "Alahu Akbar" when they come at you with a deadly weapon.
Oh and it's a "large knife" now...


Getting busier all the time over there, but then the Mayor did say it has to be like this now, didn't he?
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Looks like my prediction of Europe becoming more like Israel are coming true, with a regular stream of low level attacks on the security services,
A thin intermittent trickle in this case
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Can I tempt you to give a figure of your fellow citizens after who's untimely demise you would become concerned, or are we all up for grabs in pursuit of your vision?
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Why? A figure isn't important. What matters is how society responds to being attacked like this. Mileage will vary in how much or how little it takes to tip things one way or another.

What we know is that the attackers are hoping for massive, sweeping changes, panic, overreaction, hysteria, society going into lock-down mode, things no longer working, normalcy being thrown out the window, draconian control measures — even violent reactions and breakdown of civil order where ordinary citizens start hounding Muslims in general through the streets, vigilante justice, public killings, mayhem, etc. It is all good to them.

That's the thing with terror tactics. They can't really hurt our societies on any fundamental level, unless we accept to do the job for them and do the damage ourselves. That's what all terrorists have gone for since the 19th c. anarchists started planting bombs and gunning innocent people down in cafés, etc. Because they lack the means to effect any great change using different means. They're banking on triggering responses in us that allows them a completely disproportionate pay-off.

If we want numbers, a return to the level of violence of the 1970's and 1980's would require considerable higher activity and a greater death-toll than Daesh has so far been able to incur. So in that sense they shouldn't be anywhere near any kind breaking-point. Unless WE, and our societies, have grown considerably more fragile since then. Maybe we have? The whole social media phenomenon seems a fantastic conduit for collective hysteria.
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Why? A figure isn't important. What matters is how society responds to being attacked like this. Mileage will vary in how much or how little it takes to tip things one way or another.

What we know is that the attackers are hoping for massive, sweeping changes, panic, overreaction, hysteria, society going into lock-down mode, things no longer working, normalcy being thrown out the window, draconian control measures — even violent reactions and breakdown of civil order where ordinary citizens start hounding Muslims in general through the streets, vigilante justice, public killings, mayhem, etc. It is all good to them.

That's the thing with terror tactics. They can't really hurt our societies on any fundamental level, unless we accept to do the job for them and do the damage ourselves. That's what all terrorists have gone for since the 19th c. anarchists started planting bombs and gunning innocent people down in cafés, etc. Because they lack the means to effect any great change using different means. They're banking on triggering responses in us that allows them a completely disproportionate pay-off.

If we want numbers, a return to the level of violence of the 1970's and 1980's would require considerable higher activity and a greater death-toll than Daesh has so far been able to incur. So in that sense they shouldn't be anywhere near any kind breaking-point. Unless WE, and our societies, have grown considerably more fragile since then. Maybe we have? The whole social media phenomenon seems a fantastic conduit for collective hysteria.
I think society breaks down into groups who will accept the murder of school girls at a concert and other atrocities as an acceptable price for their vision of what the future should be, very open and tolerant of other cultures, social liberals. Another group, the more socially conservative, are appalled at what the more socially liberal have done to western society and hold them somewhat responsible. Which group is bigger? Certainly the former dominate the political landscape in Western Europe and the rest of us can only point out the price and hope the rest of society wakes up before it is too late.
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I think society breaks down into groups who will accept the murder of school girls at a concert and other atrocities as an acceptable price for their vision of what the future should be, very open and tolerant of other cultures, social liberals. Another group, the more socially conservative, are appalled at what the more socially liberal have done to western society and hold them somewhat responsible. Which group is bigger? Certainly the former dominate the political landscape in Western Europe and the rest of us can only point out the price and hope the rest of society wakes up before it is too late.
Put things in perspective - in general you are more likely to be hilled by an idiot driver than a terrorist - far more likely. Like the eight people killed and four injured (3 with life threatening injuries) hit by two truck drivers (one over the alcohol limit) on the M1 yesterday
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Putting things in perspective : in 1941 much more Britains died from sickness than by German air attacks,thus , there was no reason to be angered by these attacks ?
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I think society breaks down into groups who will accept the murder of school girls at a concert and other atrocities as an acceptable price for their vision of what the future should be, very open and tolerant of other cultures, social liberals. Another group, the more socially conservative, are appalled at what the more socially liberal have done to western society and hold them somewhat responsible. Which group is bigger? Certainly the former dominate the political landscape in Western Europe and the rest of us can only point out the price and hope the rest of society wakes up before it is too late.
It is not only a question of a limited number of terror casualties, but also a question of thousands of daily terror attacks without wounded or dead: people who are afraid to visit certain districts, people who are intimidated by Muslims,etc,etc ,women who are insulted and raped,...

The cohabitation of Muslims and non Muslims is only possible if the Muslims adapt themselves to the non Muslim society where they arrive . Immigrants must adapt to the autochtones, not the opposite .
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