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Commenting on deadly attacks in Catalonia, the chief rabbi of that region in Spain said that his community is doomed, partly because of radical Islam and authorities’ alleged reluctance to confront it.
Rabbi Meir Bar-Hen has been encouraging his congregants to leave Spain, which he called during an interview with JTA a “hub of Islamist terror for all of Europe,” for years before the attacks Thursday and Friday, he said.
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It is possible that the original plan was to destroy the main cathedral in Barcelona with a gas bomb. Western Christianity seems so determined to protect Islam in Europe that I am not sure even this atrocity would have roused the clergy to denounce Islam and call on politicians to do more.
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It is possible that the original plan was to destroy the main cathedral in Barcelona with a gas bomb. Western Christianity seems so determined to protect Islam in Europe that I am not sure even this atrocity would have roused the clergy to denounce Islam and call on politicians to do more.
Well, they will find out, sooner or later, but I doubt it.
Its not like any of them give two figs about the genocide of Christianity in Syria and Iraq.
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I'm certain they haven't forgotten the Christian conquest of Islamic Spain in 1492.
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I'm certain they haven't forgotten the Christian conquest of Islamic Spain in 1492.
All while selectively forgetting that the reason the Christians rolled them out of Spain was because they invaded Europe in the first place.

Islamists have this bad habit of being the aggressor then playing the victim when they get slapped down.
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All while selectively forgetting that the reason the Christians rolled them out of Spain was because they invaded Europe in the first place.

Islamists have this bad habit of being the aggressor then playing the victim when they get slapped down.
Same with jews, eh?
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Same with jews, eh?
Your comment makes not ****ing sense. When was the last time the Jews had an empire that stretched from India to Spain?


Islam invaded. Conquered. Were kicked out. Wash and repeat.
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(...) invaded. Conquered. Were kicked out. Wash and repeat.
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Your comment makes not ****ing sense. When was the last time the Jews had an empire that stretched from India to Spain?


Islam invaded. Conquered. Were kicked out. Wash and repeat.
Like Snowgerry there points out; history!

As the catholics innocent angels kicked out, murdered and force converted the moslems they also did the same with jews. Now you are saying that the moslems deserved to be murdered, raped, destroyed and whatnot because there was an "empire of Islam" so how did the jews deserve it?

And you know, before Spain was catholic it was something else, so the logic(if there is any) here kinda baffles me.

Since you clearly approve of such actions of mass destruction, then surely you agree that this whole war on terror thing is our own fault, and those who died during 9/11 duly deserved it...you know since it was an action against US imperialism in Middle-East(no my friend, I don't think so, but following your logic;ie).


In other words my comment makes sense inside the argument you and PS are building here, among others.
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Like Snowgerry there points out; history!

As the catholics innocent angels kicked out, murdered and force converted the moslems they also did the same with jews. Now you are saying that the moslems deserved to be murdered, raped, destroyed and whatnot because there was an "empire of Islam" so how did the jews deserve it?

And you know, before Spain was catholic it was something else, so the logic(if there is any) here kinda baffles me.

Since you clearly approve of such actions of mass destruction, then surely you agree that this whole war on terror thing is our own fault, and those who died during 9/11 duly deserved it...you know since it was an action against US imperialism in Middle-East(no my friend, I don't think so, but following your logic;ie).


In other words my comment makes sense inside the argument you and PS are building here, among others.
The Islamic dogma is theocratic, promotes expansion by warfare, is misogynist, and promotes Jew hatred. Equating it with Christianity is intellectually dishonest.

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What else can it be? These people would rather be killed or enslaved by the Jihad than live with any Right wingers.

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Like Snowgerry there points out; history!

As the catholics innocent angels kicked out, murdered and force converted the moslems they also did the same with jews. Now you are saying that the moslems deserved to be murdered, raped, destroyed and whatnot because there was an "empire of Islam" so how did the jews deserve it?

And you know, before Spain was catholic it was something else, so the logic(if there is any) here kinda baffles me.

Since you clearly approve of such actions of mass destruction, then surely you agree that this whole war on terror thing is our own fault, and those who died during 9/11 duly deserved it...you know since it was an action against US imperialism in Middle-East(no my friend, I don't think so, but following your logic;ie).


In other words my comment makes sense inside the argument you and PS are building here, among others.

NO I don't care whose fault it is. I only care that my side wins. I'd kill em all to get peace and normalcy restored. However, I think the elites don't want that.

Perpetual war is fun.

Islam invaded a Visigoth kingdom of Toledo nominally catholic (with arian and other christian sects holdover). A couple hundred years later the catholics took it back. Naturally enough they were smart enough not to leave "enemies"

You didnt hear about islamic terrorists in spain in the 15th century.

The ancients knew how to do one thing right, and that was WAR. The 18th century and the play wars of the absolute monarchies of Europe after the 30 years war skewed our understanding, in the west, of what war is.

War is total. It is society against society. Soldiers are merely one aspect of war. The difference between killing a man in uniform or a women in the field is zero. Until the social/political/cultural changes are accepted then the war is ongoing.

I'm not talking about morality. I am talking about WAR. The only reason people even pretend to keep to "morality" in war is because of the big bad US and to a lesser extent Western Europe who pretend to enforce this joke...

Anyway, I'm done with my rant. No one deserves anything. It just happens. Do you want to finish the WAR with peace or more war.
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NO I don't care whose fault it is. I only care that my side wins. I'd kill em all to get peace and normalcy restored. However, I think the elites don't want that.

Perpetual war is fun.

Islam invaded a Visigoth kingdom of Toledo nominally catholic (with arian and other christian sects holdover). A couple hundred years later the catholics took it back. Naturally enough they were smart enough not to leave "enemies"

You didnt hear about islamic terrorists in spain in the 15th century.

The ancients knew how to do one thing right, and that was WAR. The 18th century and the play wars of the absolute monarchies of Europe after the 30 years war skewed our understanding, in the west, of what war is.

War is total. It is society against society. Soldiers are merely one aspect of war. The difference between killing a man in uniform or a women in the field is zero. Until the social/political/cultural changes are accepted then the war is ongoing.

I'm not talking about morality. I am talking about WAR. The only reason people even pretend to keep to "morality" in war is because of the big bad US and to a lesser extent Western Europe who pretend to enforce this joke...

Anyway, I'm done with my rant. No one deserves anything. It just happens. Do you want to finish the WAR with peace or more war.
Members of the public may see this as a war but none of the leading politicians in Europe do. The argument seems to run that deaths from Islamic terror are low versus ETA and the IRA, so no biggie and everyone just chill and let the police handle it. That ain't changing unless voters change who they elect.
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Like Snowgerry there points out; history!

As the catholics innocent angels kicked out, murdered and force converted the moslems they also did the same with jews. Now you are saying that the moslems deserved to be murdered, raped, destroyed and whatnot because there was an "empire of Islam" so how did the jews deserve it?

And you know, before Spain was catholic it was something else, so the logic(if there is any) here kinda baffles me.

Since you clearly approve of such actions of mass destruction, then surely you agree that this whole war on terror thing is our own fault, and those who died during 9/11 duly deserved it...you know since it was an action against US imperialism in Middle-East(no my friend, I don't think so, but following your logic;ie).


In other words my comment makes sense inside the argument you and PS are building here, among others.
What a load of . Nothing but strawmen and nonsense.

Fact: Islam aggressively expanded into Spain. They were not innocent little angels persecuted for existing. Were medieval Christians angels? Nope and I didn't say they were. But that doesn't change the fact that Islamic imperialism was a thing and that the Reconquista was a response to an invasion. Am I excusing pogroms by saying this? Of course not, don't be stupid.

Islamists played the empire game and in 1492 they lost. Sucks to be them.
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