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I doubt it. Cuba's forces in overseas actions were primarily quasi-infantry units that were there more for support of local friendly forces in an insurgency, doing stuff like training, civil engineering, or staff work.

Supporting a full military force in anything beyond a very low grade guerrilla war or insurgency was beyond the Soviets at any distance from home. They lacked the naval forces and shipping to sustain something like a Vietnam or Korean war. I'd add, that they likely lacked the logistical knowledge to do it as well as this would be something they had never done before.

Even today in Syria the Russians don't have a big footprint and their operations have been limited mostly to artillery and air strikes.
Cuban forces in Angola where full on military formation that operated independently from the Angolan forces. In fact Cuba worked closer with SWAPO than FAPLA. As mentioned Cuba at one stage had a entire Division ready for combat and before that Cuba had multiple brigades operating in the south. These formations had APC, IFV, tanks, artillery, air defence, extra.

The soviet union had access to every civilian cargo ship of the Warsaw Pact nations. They had the ships.
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I doubt it. Cuba's forces in overseas actions were primarily quasi-infantry units that were there more for support of local friendly forces in an insurgency, doing stuff like training, civil engineering, or staff work.

Supporting a full military force in anything beyond a very low grade guerrilla war or insurgency was beyond the Soviets at any distance from home. They lacked the naval forces and shipping to sustain something like a Vietnam or Korean war. I'd add, that they likely lacked the logistical knowledge to do it as well as this would be something they had never done before.

Even today in Syria the Russians don't have a big footprint and their operations have been limited mostly to artillery and air strikes.
I was not suggesting anything like a korea or vietnam commitment at all


but about 1-2 divisions inc airborne units involved in actual fighting 20k-30k men ( i.e 1/10 of the force we deployed in vietnam maybe less)

airbridge to ferry supplies for other local units ( like they did in ethiopia)

supporting units like mobile SAMs and tactical SSMs operating independent battalions supporting libyan and other ground units

sustained air strikes for a few weeks by long range aviation targeting larger infrastructure with their air to surface missiles (based in southern WP countries like bulgaria )

some frontal aviation units ( a couple of regiments ) esp strike planes supporting the ground forces

your point about their inexperience about amphib landings and logistics is duly noted that is why I'm suggesting they would likely not try something directly against a defended coastline

btw cuban units in angola and ethiopia were involved in full combat operations

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The Russians did send a fighter regiment to North Korea during the Korean War. The MIG 15s had their Russian instruments switched out and replaced with Chinese ones. The pilots were also ordered to speak in Chinese whenever they were on the radio however there were times where Russian pilots actually spoke in Russian disspite this order.
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The Russians did send a fighter regiment to North Korea during the Korean War. The MIG 15s had their Russian instruments switched out and replaced with Chinese ones. The pilots were also ordered to speak in Chinese whenever they were on the radio however there were times where Russian pilots actually spoke in Russian disspite this order.
yeah but at that time they had a friendly china right next door

but sending forces across the ocean and depending on their limited navy and short range airforce is another thing altogather
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True the Russians have a limited sea-lift capacity but a strong airlift/airmobilty capability.
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