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Is anyone familiar with a concept the U.S Army was developing in the mid 1980s called the Army of Excellence?
The Army published a book about the development od AoE, written by the TRADOC historian, IIRC.

https://history.army.mil/html/books/...Pub_69-4-1.pdf
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Didn't the 2nd Armored division have a brigade in Germany in the 19809s and didn't this brigade serve in Desert Strom along the Marines and the combined Arab forces that liberated Kuwait?
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Didn't the 2nd Armored division have a brigade in Germany in the 19809s and didn't this brigade serve in Desert Strom along the Marines and the combined Arab forces that liberated Kuwait?
Yes, you're talking about 3Bde 2AD otherwise known as 2nd Armored Division (Forward) based at Garlstedt in the Northern part of West Germany. It was attached to 1ID for Desert Storm. 1st Bde 2nd AD aka the Tiger Brigade fought with the Marines and Arab Coalition forces during the Storm. The Tiger Brigade was one of the 2 2nd AD brigades based at Fort Hood (the 2nd Bde was deactivating at the time.). The Tiger Brigade was eventually reflagged 3rd Brigade 1st Cavalry Division.

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Yes, you're talking about 3Bde 2AD otherwise known as 2nd Armored Division (Forward) based at Garlstedt in the Northern part of West Germany. It was attached to 1ID for Desert Storm. 1st Bde 2nd AD aka the Tiger Brigade fought with the Marines and Arab Coalition forces during the Storm. The Tiger Brigade was one of the 2 2nd AD brigades based at Fort Hood (the 2nd Bde was deactivating at the time.). The Tiger Brigade was eventually reflagged 3rd Brigade 1st Cavalry Division.
Although battalions weren't typically assigned to brigades in the 1980s (only to the divisions, except in the case of separate brigades), here is what US 2nd Armored Division was organized in 1989:
1st Brigade
* 1-67 Armor
* 3-67 Armor
* 3-41 Infantry
2nd Brigade
* 1-66 Armor
* 1-252 Armor (round out, North Carolina Army National Guard)
* 2-41 Infantry
* 4-41 Infantry
3rd Brigade (forward)
* 2-66 Armor
* 3-66 Armor
* 1-41 Infantry
* 4-3 Field Artillery
* 498th Support Battalion
* Troop D, 2-1 Cavalry
* Company D, 17th Engineers
* Battery , 2-5 Air Defense Artillery
* 588th Military Intelligence Company
Aviation Brigade
* 2-1 Cavalry (-)
* 1-3 Aviation (Attack)
* Company D, 3rd Aviation
* Company E, 3rd Aviation
Division Artillery
* 1-3 Field Artillery
* 3-3 Field Artillery
* Battery A, 92nd Field Artillery
* ??? there should have been a target acquisition battery, but it is not listed in the 1989 NATO OOB, maybe Battery H, 25th FA?
Division Support Command
* ?? Main Support Battalion (124th?)
* ?? Forward Support Battalion (502nd?)
* ?? Forward Support Battalion (48th?)
17th Engineer Battalion (-)
2nd Battalion, 5th Air Defense Artillery (-)
552nd Military Intelligence Battalion (or 522nd?)
503rd Military Police Company (or 502nd?)
44th Chemical Company
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* ??? there should have been a target acquisition battery, but it is not listed in the 1989 NATO OOB, maybe Battery H, 25th FA?
In '89 it would have been Battery C, 26th FA for 2nd AD. Battery H, 25th FA would have been an element of the 5th ID at that time.
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Nordkapp

Nordkapp (1983)
Designer Charles T. Kamps, Edward G. Sollers
Artist Ivor M. Janci, Keith Parkinson, Stephen Sullivan
Publisher TSR


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The 1/252 Armor may well be the first National Guard unit to get the M-1 Abrams. Sadly they were stood down before Desert Storm. I never could find out why they were disbanded. The maintenance and storage would have been done at Fort Bragg. The only thing I could find out is North Carolina does not fund a program for Guardsmen to go to College. Louisiana has this and they get a better pick of recruits for the Louisiana Guard.

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