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I think some people are going to be very unhappy soon...

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A lot of the pictures show police in civilian clothes exchanging fire with the terrorists. Surely the security forces would all be in uniform to make identification easier?

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This woman is supposed to be part of this. Treason is treason. I never would have thought this once upon a time but I just keep thinking tap to the head if she's going to hang out in that part of the world with those kind of people..I don't want her in a prison here. The Kenyans can throw away the key..
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Kenya still has capital punishment, though they haven't exucuted anyone for some years. I heard some rumours that in this case it execution is real possibility...Maybe they get their official hangman out of retirement

And if those rumours of "Finnish" attacker are true good riddance to him too. I think Copenhagen, and and my stance is that "Finnishness" in this case is purely adminstrative...
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The Kenyan govt and FM have not the faintest idea of what's going on inside # Westgate mall. Rest assured, Kenyans are in for a big surprise!
Anyone else think they are going to blow up the whole mall? What else could they be doing for 4 days? Just sitting in a room waiting for people to run in? I seriously think they are placing heavy explosives everywhere and are going to blow it.

The 10 are so arrest that someone stated yesterday were not people inside the mall but outside.

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Arrests at airport Even as soldiers continued to sweep the mall, authorities also zeroed in on an airports and border crossings. More than 10 suspects were arrested Monday for questioning in relation to the attacks, the Interior Ministry tweeted Tuesday.
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But four days after Al-Shabaab terrorists stormed the swanky mall, several gunmen -- including snipers -- were still inside, two senior officials said.
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If they were going to blow it up they would have done it with as many victims inside as possible. More likely they expected Kenyan troops to just storm the place and go out in a blaze of glory. Instead the authorities have concentrated on extracting the civilians alive. So this went on rather longer than the gunmen anticipated.
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The Kenyans are reporting they captured 11 suspects.

Why in the world surrender after committing such an atrocity? They had weapons. The cowardice of the Islamists is equal to their fanaticism.
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Who said they gave up easy. Or unbruised.

If I was incharge i would where ever posibile what prisoners to you know, use has a intel source. They will want to know how they got in country, who helped them, who supplyed them who trained them who funnded them. Then get a nice long kill list and make it knowen that who ever trys this gets a one way trip to his Virginians.

The guys who carreid out the attacks may not fear death but those who planed and ensurred the succsess are by nature cowards.
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Why in the world surrender after committing such an atrocity? They had weapons. The cowardice of the Islamists is equal to their fanaticism.
Mount another operation to seize hostages and release them in exchange for the release of these guys or turn their trial into a defense which attacks all kafirs and praises jihad
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Why in the world surrender after committing such an atrocity? They had weapons. The cowardice of the Islamists is equal to their fanaticism.
The problem is that a statement like that is about as accurate or useful as saying that all British military personnel are heroic fighters who never surrender. If Islamists were all a bunch of cowards we would not be in the situation we are in now would we?

Define cowardice though. Is a man walking up to a situation knowing he is most likely going to die a coward even if he murders civilians? Are aircrew flying over largely undefended cities heroes?
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Why in the world surrender after committing such an atrocity? They had weapons. The cowardice of the Islamists is equal to their fanaticism.
It's a good thing though. They will be a good source of information and intel. Perhaps some terrorist sympathizers in the UK and the US will be exposed.
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They are probably barely any. Even if they sympathise, they are to gutless to do anything and they have freedom of speech.
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Zachary Yach is an 18-year-old South African whose family recently moved to Kenya. He told the BBC's Will Ross how he defied his dad's orders to leave a restaurant where he was trapped for two and a half hours during the Westgate attack:

My sister, my mum and I had just come from a doctor's appointment and we headed off to a burger restaurant at Westgate for lunch.

We had just ordered our burgers and I was looking at the woman across from me and some pebbles, small rocks pieces of concrete were thrown at her and I was looking to see who was throwing the stuff.
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In these kind of situations there's no time to think, you just react”

Then a huge explosion really swept us off our feet - it was like a big gust of wind, like a sandstorm, things hitting your face and then a huge explosion which was ear piercing.

So we just dropped to the floor under the table, put our heads down and curled up for a good 20 or 30 minutes.
'A lot of dead bodies'

That was when a lot of grenades were being thrown and a lot of gunfire was happening and once that had subsided a bit, we put our heads up to see what was going on because we were completely clueless.

I saw one of the waiters - he was OK but he had a lot of blood coming from his head. Also, in the other corner of the restaurant, I looked and I saw a lot of dead bodies and I was really just praying for them to just wiggle a bit to see if they were OK and alive.

Thank God someone else moved his head and I pointed to him and asked him: "Are you OK?" you know with my thumbs up.
Kenyan troops take position on 21 September 2013 inside the Westgate mall in Nairobi. Zachary hid inside the ArtCaffe for two and a half hours before a tactical team helped him to escape

He had been shot in the arm so he managed to grab a knife and come towards us. He cut his T-shirt and tied it around - we helped him and tried to get him to keep pressure on.

In these kind of situations there's no time to think, you just react. So the first thing I thought of was just to make sure my family was OK and once they were fine, to help anyone else I could.

There were still bursts of gunfire.
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One woman who was executed. She was over 8 months pregnant. There is no forgiveness for this.
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